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CrkMStanz · 06-17-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

try and get the cops to go after someone making copies of videos one at a time and giving them to their friends. That is the level of infringement that you are trying to justify police involvement. The network creates a massive infringement (assuming you don't setup a private tracker).
But that is the point the private tracker solves the problem completely, sueing for the economic damage of the breach of contract and ignoring the copyright issue completely solves the problem.
So why do you need to change the law, and take way peoples right (like the right to be presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty).

monetizing is the better solution to praying that some politician can be suckered into writing a law that stomps all over people rights to provide you with the protection you want but don't need (because you can already solve the problem with a private tracker).

your vcr argument is dated - its not about 'a person' giving 'a copy' to their 'friend or two'

its about mass distribution in the scale of millions - COMPLETELY different - tho the vcr judgements were fair when applied to the 'physical tape copy' - they no longer apply.

in canada - even murderers are 'innocent until proven guilty' even when caught red-handed - this however does NOT stop the cops from arresting them. So, why can't the digital theives be busted, presumed innocent, and sent thru the arrest/court system?? So, I say your argument is hot air - I'm not saying that they are to be assumed guilty - I am saying that if they steal they are (allegedly) theives and treated as such, and that laws be made to give lawenforcement the wherewithall to actively pursue them.

the private tracker idea is sound but still leaves everyone in the realm of a 'civil suit' against people who couldn't pay you anyways (or would dissappear, or live in an untouchable country or....) - and again - I have to do all the work and lay out the cash. And you know well that it is impossible for any one person to have the resources to identify, track down, and sue all of them.

so - you avoid the 'enforcement of law by the police' issue by basically saying that they shouldn't be involved and I need to personally track every website on the internet myself to 'find the infringers'

sorry - still haven't converted me to your ways

and I shall support every effort made by the courts and law enforcement to bring this to a halt - including voting for 'friendly' political persons/parties