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Old 06-18-2009, 01:24 PM  
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Originally Posted by WarChild View Post
No, no, no you totally missed the point.

In the here and now, things are clear in recent memory. Of course we don't attribute the growth of reform movements in Iran to George Bush.

I'm just saying that as time passes, history has a funny way of remembering things. If big advancements are made in stability and democracy in that region over the next 50 years. If for instance Palestine becomes a real state, Iran continues to become more moderate and so fourth, then one might reasonably say, looking back, that it started with the Bush policies.
You could also say Obama had just as much of an effect by openly stating that we were willing to talk to Iran.. Taking away the ability of Iran's current leadership to fear monger and so on..
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