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Old 06-18-2009, 07:34 PM  
gideongallery
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
Okay Gideon, now let me explain in real life why that hasn't worked for anybody yet. As far as the torrent sites are concerned...watermarking makes little difference because the torrent contains EVERYTHING on the paysites. They have ripped the entire sites and put them up for free. Please believe me, in PORN nobody is going to pay for something that they just got for free and continue to get the weekly updates for free as well.

As for Tubes...not only do the unscrupulous sites NOT put a link back to the rightful website, but they also set up their encoder on the tube site to crop the watermarks OFF.

So they steal your hard work and you get NO return traffic or sales from it because they want to only sell their shit traffic to the traffic brokers and the dating and cam sites.

Gideon, you keep saying it can "increase your revenue by 22.35%" No it won't and no it hasn't It has DECREASED every paysite owner whom I have spoken to in person revenue by 40% or more.

You are talking hypothetically and theoretically and I am telling you what is really happening right here at ground zero.

Again I say to you...If it's such a blessing to all of us...then WHY is everyone LOSING.

We know what we are doing. I KNOW how to market and how to push things. But when people are taking your product without your consent and then removing all identifying watermarks in order to maximize their sales to another product...well, I don't give a damn who you are, that causes you to lose money all day long.

As I said, I just blinked my eyes and someone somewhere just disproved your stats (that have NOTHING to do with the porn industry by the way) by uploading another stolen video that won't make it's creator a penny.
because you acting like the movie industry when jack valenti testified to congress
just like them of course you are not making any money off the technology your not using it yet.

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We are facing a very new and a very troubling assault on our fiscal security, on our very economic life and we are facing it from a thing called the video cassette recorder and its necessary companion called the blank tape. And it is like a great tidal wave just off the shore. This video cassette recorder and the blank tape threaten profoundly the life-sustaining protection, I guess you would call it, on which copyright owners depend, on which film people depend, on which television people depend and it is called copyright.
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Nothing of value is free. It is very easy, Mr. Chairman, to convince people that it is in their best interest to give away somebody else's property for nothing, but even the most guileless among us know that this is a cave of illusion where commonsense is lured and then quietly strangled.
(from his testimony to change the laws to outlaw imports of vcrs)

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I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone.
you see the problem but not the solution that can make you even more money

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When my son is taping for his permanent collection, he sits there and pauses his machine and when he is finished with it, he has a marvelous Clint Eastwood movie and there is no sign of a commercial. It is a brand new movie and he can put three of those on one 6-hour tape.
My own home, we do it in our on home. I know about that. Anybody that has a VCR, talk to them, and I ask you to use your own commonsense... If you had the power to sit on a playback of a recording and you could wipe out the commercials or not wipe out the commercials, what would you do? ... We all do it.
But when you do it, you strip away the reason for free television. ... As far as I am concerned, I am going to continue taping because the plaintiffs have said they aren't going to do anything to me. I am not committing any crime. They know that.
we didn't get less channels, we got more, the tv industry didn't make less money they made more. currently tv studios make more money from dvd sales then they made from commercials back before the vcrs (and the average cost per viewer of commercials has gone up too)

saying i am losing money because i am not properly embracing the technology doesn't prove that technology can't be embraced it just proves you are doing it wrong.

your statement proves that because rather then test out tv style watermarks you simply claim the will not work and bitch about the piracy problem.

You are talking to someone who did test out tv style watermarks on porn so when you tell me they don't work i know they work, i know that they do.
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