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Old 06-20-2009, 12:19 PM  
Pleasurepays
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Originally Posted by sortie View Post
Exactly, so why punish the site pointing to it?

By your scenario we should all be penalized for pointing to the same sponsors.
if you create 10,000 pages about MILF Hardcore that are crap, auto generated and link them together and link them back to your main site about ponies with the anchor text "i love ponies" in the footer... the pony site won't tank. the link network behind it will... making all the irrelevant, inbound links have no benefit to your pony site. its what spam is. its how spammers spam (although over quite simplified). how many links link back to smart thumbs from low quality, auto-generated pages? how many total pages? 500K? 1,000,000? 5,000,000? how many of those sites are also linked together?

i'm not saying that's why btw.. i'm just saying that the common thread is going to most likely be linking relationships between pages and the smart thumbs link "might be" a factor in getting these sites tagged as spam... because its totally irrelevant to anything and their site is not contextually relevant to anything linking to it and because people are throwing up auto-generated sites right and left with free versions. and just because you have a paid version w/o the link doesn't mean you aren't interlinked with these same sites via trades/hard link trades and being treated the same.

a site would survive this if they had quality back links... causing it to be treated differently.

at the end of the day, the common thread is ST it seems. google doesn't manually manipulate results. so there are going to be commonalities between these sites that are causing these. since i have several with ZERO outbound links and with no text and that aren't optimized for ANY phrase, i would say it most likely has nothing to do with over optimization as the 950 penalty does and the greatest common factor is going to be link relationships between sites/pages

anyway... no one is going to agree because that's the nature of people this biz. i don't care other than it's interesting to see and is something that should be understood just for the sake of understanding it. at the end of the day, Google is a math program, executing against algorithms. somehow it tied these sites together and has determined them to be low quality results for their phrases. it might be temporary.. might not be. i would definitely assume that its not. but i would guess that you will also find a pattern among these sites of low PR sites/pages with massive networks of shitty trades to other low PR sites/pages

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