Pleasurepays

well... people here seem to be too dumb to actually research whats going on and what the alleged "position 6 penalty" is.

i had wondered why i found references to it that were a year and a half old... but had never heard of it. when it initially happened, Googles position was that it was a glitch and I believe it was corrected shortly thereafter.... which explains why people haven't been screaming about it for the last year and a half.

its very common for them to test and tweak and tune different aspects of the system at specific data centers (independent of the others) and to see these sort of issues which are usually unintended consequences of attempting to deal with something else or testing methods to deal with something else.

Something happened that affected ST. a key and important point is that it didn't affect ALL ST installs or ALL ST installs of the free version. that suggests that it has nothing to do with the script (which they wouldn't try to target manually anyway) - but that there is a greater common thread between the sites running ST and the free version of ST. I would guess that the connecting factor is the clusters of sites and who is linking to who that triggers this.

When you take a bunch of shitty spam sites and link them together to other shitty spam sites and trade links with other shitty spam sites, you're begging for trouble. i still suspect that the common factor is the quality of sites and how they are linked together. Sites with shitty back links/hard link trades are more likely to be affected negatively than sites with stronger back links

I'll say it again for those who don't want to listen to reality - http://newnubiles.net/ IS a spam site. it is a link farm. just because its a familiar format, or just because its pretty, doesn't change the fact that it is exactly what it is... a cluster of pages with NOTHING but outbound links and with NOTHING unique about them that are auto generated by a script.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=http%...=JJ2lHziM Uzc

When you are generating 1000's of pages that ultimately have a negative PR value, don't even show up in the index and are linking them all together and to other similar sites in your own network as well as doing hard link trades with similar sites... you should expect to have issues.

I would guess that at the end of the day, this is a glitch and will correct itself being that its affecting such a narrow range of sites. I am just saying the likely cause of sites being affected is the link relationships between pages/sites... not "ST". However... the link back to smart thumbs is NEVER going to be helpful to a network of sites. and its NEVER going to be helpful to share that common link/footprint with other shitty spam networks.

However, this doesn't change the fact that people should be waking up to the reality that a crappy link farm in the form of a TGP has no future anyway.

This industry has a very perverted notion of what "the best result" is or should be. And this industry continually fails to understand what a surfer or Google might expect the "best result" to be... but Googles mission is to keep working to provide that best result for users... and webmasters are either working in the right direction or they aren't. TGP's do not exactly provide the best user experience.