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Originally Posted by cykoe6
That is patently absurd. A user who searches for "porn pics" is looking exactly for a TGP so if the result bring up some crappy blog or other such nonsense then the user is not getting what he wants. You may not like TGPs as a way to surf for porn but plenty of users do. The user does not care if the site is somehow unique or if it has a good linking structure. That is SEO nonsense that means nothing to the user. If they search for porn pics they want fucking porn pics.
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You're right. and as i've said a few times, "keyword phrase + pics" or "keyword phrase + galleries" etc is what tgp's should rank for at best and where tgp owners should expect to be in the future as media types and searches/surfer interests change. people shouldn't be surprised when their MGP loses out to a tube site for "porn videos" .. it should. A porn video tube site is simply a better result.
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They could care less whether the site is properly SEOd or a "link farm" by your definition.
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"link farm" is not "my definition"... and it is in fact, what a typical tgp or link directory is.
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The user does not care if the site is somehow unique or if it has a good linking structure.
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... but Google does. Google cares very much. That's what Google does (and almost all search engines). The Page Rank formula itself (i.e. the heart and soul of Google) is an accurate predictor of surfer behavior on a site/network of sites. Its a measurement of the probability that you will end up on page A... click to page B and then skip to a new domain's page A and so on.... resulting in a probability distribution of surfer clicks across all pages online... which IS the resulting page rank value for each page. This is EXACTLY how your site is being viewed.
and guess what? blind links/skims screw with that click distribution probability model in the worst way.
This is also why the typical TGP model is fucked for search engines - 200-300 outbound links significantly decreases the probability of any link being clicked on and a page being visited (i.e. making a page more important than others) - this is why almost all tgp's have a main page toolbar PR value of 2 or 3 or whatever, with almost all other pages having no value. (i.e. the amount of "link juice" being passed to any page is distributed across ALL outbound links from that page)
personally... again, i don't care. i think the conversations are interesting... and i also find it interesting watching people resist inevitable change and their refusal to change.