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Originally Posted by Robbie
Here's my experience that was the complete opposite...and showed me that the insurance companies and the doctors and hospitals are ALL crooks.
I had my neck broken in an auto accident in 2002. Ended up in the hospital for a month and almost died, etc., etc.
The bill came out to around $150,000.00 I had no health insurance at the time. My car insurance paid 20 grand of my medical expenses.
But I couldn't pay the rest. I simply didn't have $130,000.00 to pay the hospital (and that didn't count the money owed to the surgeon who actually saved my life).
So I told them I needed to set up some kind of payment plan. They told me that to do that, I would have to first be turned over to collections.
So they did that. At that time I was still in a hard neck brace and full arm casts (both arms were shattered to pieces).
I began making minuscule monthly payments to the collection agency.
Finally, after about a year...the company that owned the hospital (and several other hospitals) called me and said they wanted to settle the whole thing.
I was kinda shocked because I was prepared to pay the whole bill over time.
Well, they explained to me that there were TWO billing systems. One for insurance and one for no insurance.
So instead of my bill being $150 grand...it was dropped down to 30 grand and I paid it.
In other words...knowing that you have insurance they basically told me that they artificially inflate the prices on you. All the while holding hands with the insurance companies. So the medical industry gets paid handsomely, the insurance companies are able to justify their high premiums...and we all get screwed.
That is the real reason that medical costs have skyrocketed.
And I'd bet my ass that the real people behind a "National Health Care" plan will be...The insurance companies. They will simply keep medical costs sky high, the govt. will require everyone to have insurance (just like they forced us to with car insurance), and then that insurance will be paid by the govt. in tax money.
I will guarantee you that despite the commercials and the b.s. that we are fed about medical and insurance lobbyists being against it...they are FOR it. Neither the media or the general public is ever aware of the true money deals that go down in Washington.
Just like the "federal bailout", it's gonna be another MASSIVE money grab and power consolidation.
If the federal govt. was being serious about medical costs...they would at the very least investigate WHY it costs so much to go to the damn doctor. And no, I'm not talking about high end surgery and "medical research" bullshit that they try to feed you. I'm talking about having the flu and going in to see your doctor.
Or breaking your arm. Or having a minor surgery. The costs are WAY overinflated.
Why doesn't the govt. just stop that instead of making a big money pile for the medical industry and the insurance companies at taxpayer expense?
They keep saying that medical costs are part of the bad economy on the t.v. ads. So why not do something about stopping doctors and hospitals from gouging the fuck out of the consumer?
Nah. Let's just set up a new bureaucracy that puts the medical industry and the big insurance companies on the federal tit and let them feed.
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Yep, the hospitals over bill any insurance they can to help inflate the profit that they lose on all the people that get treated without insurance and don't pay. That is why they charge you $20 for two aspirin or $15 for a plastic little pitcher full of water. Never mind that the second you check into the ER they basically bill you $800 before you are even seen.
Several months back my regular doctor was on vacation. I need a prescription called in and his office wouldn't do it without me coming in. They couldn't see me for three days. I couldn't wait that long. So I called a local doctor and told them I have asthma, need a prescription for my inhaler and can't get it from my regular doctor for a few days so I need something to hold me over until then. The first doctor's office told me it was a flat $200 just to see me. So I ended up going to an urgent care center. I literally was in there about 10 minutes. She listened to my lungs, hear my story and wrote me the prescription I needed and it cost me $127. Basically $127 to write me a prescription for 1 asthma inhaler.
The same goes for pharmacies. Many pharmacies actually overcharge their cash customers to make up the profit from insurance. For example if you get prescribed a medicine and you have insurance to cover it there is a max that insurance will pay. So say the max they will pay is $90 for a 30 day supply. If you have a $10 co-pay the pharmacy will charge you $100 for the medicine. You pay $10 and your insurance pays the other $90. Now if you walk in and want to pay cash for it you may end up paying $130,$150 or more for the exact same thing. Since there is no insurance cap they can charge you what they want.
If you call up pharmacies and ask for a price on a medicine many will ask you if you want the "cash" price. If the say that it is because the charge a different price for cash than they do for insurance. It is all a scam.