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Old 06-26-2009, 01:37 PM  
gideongallery
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
There he goes again! Those stats that he got from people involved in piracy. And here we go again with the vcr analogy that has got nothing to do with this.



I'm going to the gym. I don't need to do any situps though because my abs are already worked out from laughing so hard at gideons' bullshit
so holograph says that copyright laws which legalized timeshifting as a fair use right for the technology of the vcr even though that technology could still be used for piracy (making bootleg copies) should now not defend technologies until fair use is totally separated from pirated material

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"no defending of technology will work until fair use is totally separated from pirated material."
and you think that referencing the case that proves his separation idea contridicts the very function of the original act has "nothing to do with this"




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Originally Posted by holograph View Post
please show us stats that will support your statement. how do you measure torrent traffic precisely and from which sources exactly, is your stats support only free trackers or private too? )) i think your number is pure BS

digital distribution among pears always involved piracy, you just found a loophole with trackers to try to justify free leeching to all on premises that you might have missed a show and wasn't able to record it Yourself for your own VCR for private timeshifting at a later time.

you try to justify legal use of technology and turning totally blind on piracy issues it creates which hurts not only big corps but all involved and affected by production people. you just won't recognize it.



study was done by a university professor
he used the sumotorrent rss feed downloading everything they indexed (sumotorrent at the time was meta tracker downloading across both private and public trackers and not excluding porn like mininova does)

about 1/2 of the videos are movies that aired on tv and would therefore be covered by the timeshifting right.

they generated their count by using the published number of completed downloads that trackers list on the client stats. Which are very accurate because they are the foundation of protocol (you need to know how many seeders are and where they are).


play close attention to how small the porn section is.
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