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Originally Posted by kane
I'm curious if you can make 20X the money in mainstream why are you wasting your time arguing for free on a porn board?
Nobody here will be changing any laws. We may agree or disagree with them. We may get mad or happy with rulings, but we aren't going to change anything. The fight is between bigger companies and people like The Pirate Bay. You don't need to convince us that torrents are good.
I know what I make in porn. If I could make 20X that marketing mainstream via torrents you would never see me here because I would be keeping my mouth shut riding the gravy train.
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because argueing with you guys exposes objections that would cost me real sales
people here argued i was dead wrong on law based on everything i said, if i had done that with a real customer i would have never gotten the sale.
I keep testing different arguement POV and legal cases, and i finally kept saying if you don't believe me hire a qualified lawyer take my arguements and run it by them.
A couple of you guys actually did, and if you look those guys now admit that what i said about the law was correct.
that little test has made me over 200k in last 2 years, because instead arguing with a real customer, i tell them i would like to meet with them and their lawyer and i will pay for his/her time.
I make the same points about fair use and their ultimate consequences (i bring the case references) i made to you guys, when their lawyers tell them that i am right they don't get intrenched in the battles we get into here.
when we give them a choice between hoping the laws will be rewriten so that the big studioes and record companies who currently screw them over will give them a tiny share of the actual sales or use the technology to drive the sales directly to themselves and keep most of the money, they end up accepting especially when we make performance based offers (pay us 3 cents per view instead of buying traffic directly from youtube at 15 cents per click(first 7 days)- keep the steady stream of traffic you that keeps coming in forever).
with tube sites like youtube, getting a massive spike in traffic on the first 7 days, gets you most ... honors and regular rotations in the recommended bar when ever new youtube viewers who match your interest log on. That why so many people buy enough traffic to get on the top 20 lists even though it is very expense. In the long term the steady stream of traffic makes that very cost effective (you will get 70-80% of your traffic for free if you spike in the first 7 days)
Doing the same thing using title optimization tricks that i figuired out by test submitting to porn tubes makes me a lot of money, but if i had to deal with this types of objections i would never get those sales. Arguing with you guys let me figure out, what kind of irrational/totally wrong legal point of view exist in my potential customers. Which i can then deal with nicely.
for example your bouncing around between us and eu laws, and mistakenly believing I was being inconsistant is going to change the way i deal with real customers. I am going to do some clarifications about what regions we are talking about. or point out that it hasn't been established in the US yet, but point out the key legal precedents that have already been established that will make it happen if the arguement is ever made under US law. not a 100% sure how to do that but, i will figuire it out but the simple fact is i would have never realized it until it cost me a real sale if it were not for the arguement with you.