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Originally Posted by kane
Proof please. He posted a shot of his stats remote program. Please list the bands you have gotten signed to major labels.
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Originally Posted by Robbie
He won't because he hasn't. He's trying to take credit in a round-a-bout way for the handful of bands who were able to market themselves on youtube. Of course since gideon is also NOT in the music business he doesn't know what he's talking about again. And he can't post any kind of stats because he hasn't yet made any money by marketing on torrents.
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the first band i got signed using peer to peer marketing was project wyze. Yaz and i worked together in london ontario, he constantly complained that he and his band toured with some pretty successful bands (before they were famous BTW) but his band never got the big break. I did a spike launch for him and his brother Mohammad (their manager).
I gave him a list of keywords which had good traffic but virtually no valid competition (low hanging fruit). He wrote a song that keyword stuffed all those lyrics and i used them to create doorway pages for their domain.
i created door way pages based on the photos they had with different very famous bands and quotes from those bands about how great they were and created doorway pages for those.
grabbing traffic to a mailing list and releaseing badly recorded live performances from their bar playing.
The went into the studio and recorded two songs one for an EP and another to drop on napster.
I picked the date, so that it would not conflict with any other artist and release the song
i switched out the links on the doorway pages to tell people to download napster (affilate link) and napster link to the file
sent out the mailing to all the people we had on the mailing list.
As a result of all the downloads in a very short time, they appeared on the first page of most downloaded
were the fastest rising independent band
and 2-3 other honors i can't remember
That buzz was responsible for balloning their mailing list to over 300k in people and when they mailed out telling them about the EP release something like a 1/3 bought it.
Sony signed them based on the success of their EP sale and fan base they had collected just magically seemed to get. Both of which was because of me.
As far as a know hat was the first time such a spike launch was done using peer to peer as the bases for the drop.
I have recently done the same thing again, but since we copied maria digby covers plan and the only innovating thing that was done was to use bit torrent instead of youtube. it not really worth bragging about.
About 2 years ago, brad dean the drummer from project wyze told me that they made more money EP spike launch i did for them then they made from the entire sales of the gold record Misfits.strangers.liars.friends.
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We all know the only way to make money on a torrent is either to be the OWNER of the torrent or to buy an ad spot on the torrent. The stolen content is the traffic generator, NOT the product. I suppose I could change my entire business and use "branding bugs" and watermarks to sell vibrators on Claudia-Marie's videos and then let the entire members area be ripped on torrents. Because nobody is going to buy a paysite membership off of the ripped vids.
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that not the only way to make money off torrent traffic.
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Yes I can. I played my first gig in front of an audience at age 8. I played professionally in bands all over the world entertaining people as an adult since 1978. I'm a great entertainer and know just about every trick of the trade when it comes to entertaining an audience. Which is why I can say without fail I'll ALWAYS run circles around you in the entertainment and marketing of entertainment fields. I've forgotten more than you'll ever know.
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ok so preforming in a band is and using traditional marketing to get your self signed to a major record label putting out a gold record as a result (i assume your accomplishments were equal to PWs) is equal an indepedently verifiable to getting a record deal i a way that was never done before.
Fine, i won't argue
Like is said we can trade past experiences all day long the only thing that will truely backup your statement you will always run circles around me is to agree to not use the techniques i show you guys.
in 2000
http://web.archive.org/web/200105100...load.com/soap/
i was writing research reports for itm solutions which were sold to it managers in fortune 2000 companies. more than 1500 it managers were reading those reports and taking that advice.
This report contained an article about sans.
Out of the 3022 articles written on the subject not one recommend to standardize on tcp/ip over fiber channel except for me. In fact forrester, giga, infotech actually explictly recommended that you don't worry about interoperibility because even the smallest players were building bridge software and it would be done in time for the move to SAN.
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by 18 months later every single one of those research firms had written an article about how interoperibility issues had resulted in 80% of all SAN implementations to lose money.
Not one of the it managers who took my advice had that problem.
http://web.archive.org/web/200202251...oad.com/xhtml/
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It is important to realize that embedding a script into the XHTML document is still valid, however because small wireless devices would have to download entire doc before realizing that the script could not be initiated. This is not the preferable way. By creating a custom XML tag and assigning the script to be triggered when this tag is recognized. As a result the small wireless device would not recognize and therefore never download the afore mentioned script
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at the time this recommendation was no where close to the norm, in fact when microsoft released browser behaviors they were decryed by the competing browsers.
Today look at silverlight, java fx, CSS 2.0 and any xml based web interface, you can see event triggers as xml id.
I have an independently verifiable of actually comming up with innovative solutions to problems that everyone else can't see. IT has more to do with my methodologies then my intelligent.
The hundreds of phds at forrester, meta, giga etc combined are way smarter than you, and they failed to catch things that my methodologies do catch.
Like i said, your experience is not as great as you think it is, especially when you take into account that your are basically repeating tried and true techniques established by someone else (so far you haven't given a single example of something you did, that absolute no one else did before you which is the point when we are talking about finding a solution to a problem no one seems to be able to come up with).