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No, stop twisting it. I am talking about knowledge of a crime after it has been done, not stopping terrorism for gods sake... Unless you have the legal right and it is required by law, like selling guns or hire someone to work with children, I do not expect background checks. Whether you sell candy or adult porn, you can't check you customer for convictions, just like you can't check random uploaders of torrents. However, you can make terms of use, and if afterwards you know any criminal act has been made, then you are obligated to stop it and report it. If you endorse criminal activity (like offering anonymity and protection) then your purpose is to contribute to it.
Is it so hard to understand?
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offer anonymity could be all about believing that you should not have your privacy rights violated before you are actually evidence you committed a crime (downloading for fair use purposes is not a crime, and so far seeding has not been established to be the same as sharing a complete file and given sampling explictly defined under fair use doctrine would require a very big stretch to do so)
The pirate bay only offer that service after the courts ruled that privacy should take second place to convicting infringement. That ruling is currently being appealed, so until supreme court of that country rules offering anonymity is just standing up for what you believe.
As a person who lives in a country that respects privacy properly, i don't consider that stand unreasonable.
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No you can't generalize and say that. Copyright is not about the rights of torrent providers or those who commit infringement, but the rights of original unique works. The nature of the work differs in each case and between countries. Canada is not Sweden vice versa. But there are no countries (I know of) that allow unauthorized distribution of complete copies if it is not public domain, and especially not if you make money off it.
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fair use authorized works is not unauthorized, that the point
the courts have not ruled on which side of the arguement is true.
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If I give you proof, then you know it is infringement. The courts are not there for you to know, but to solve conflicts... And please... if you distribute full Star Wars movies, and you receive letters, do not think your "lack of knowledge", i.e. playing stupid, will convince any court. 
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claiming that it is an infringement when possible fair use authorization is not proof
it is an opinion
it is about as valid as me claiming that 100% of your porn customer are going to make cp with your porn.
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I do not claim that. Like I said, each case is unique and it is about the work. So logically, it can't be explicitly ruled.
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that is the stupidest statement you have made
by that standard pvr would have to go to court again to get the right of timeshifting because vcr and pvr are different
there has to be an explict ruling on weather it is fair use or not, the standard must be set
once set it apply to all technology that is used in that way.
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This was what I was looking for, the establishment of morality. So basically, you have the same moral standard as the the pirate bay owners (soon previous owners); As long the law and courts can't touch you and there are places still left in the world to hide - lets do it?
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morality is about having the same point of view irregardless if that view is against you or for you.
My point of view is the same, punish only the person who actually commits the infringement
you don't want to shut down your opperations until there is a way to absolutely prove that no one is buying your content for the purpose of making kiddie porn (something that is clearly already established to be illegal) yet you want the pirate bay to shut down opperations until it can be absolute proven content is not pirated (even though the fair use issues that determine weather it is actually illegal have not been decided yet).
If your beliefs about extending responsiblity were the same i could at least say you were moral true, but with such a difference i would say that your morality is the one that is jepordy.