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Old 07-04-2009, 01:16 AM  
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I think people throw the term right winger around tooo losely... definitely conservative but not a right winger... I think right winger as extreme right.

I think everyone is a fiscal conservative unless you live in a democratic state thats broke... cali, ny, illinois, hawaii, pa .... and just blow too much money on govt programs.

If obama loses on anything I see it being economy and national security. Romney would be ideal if economy is still fucked up... BTW I dont like Romney but politically he sits in the drivers seat.
Well, I have to disagree about her being a hard right winger. She is pro life. So much so that she knew early on that her baby would have down syndrome and kept it (not that other people wouldn't have done the same, but many would have chose not to keep it.) And she has said that abortion is one of the worst crimes a person can commit. She is for teaching abstinence only even when those teachings prove that they do not work. She is very pro-gun and pro-hunting. She is anti gay rights and supports a states rights to deny job benefits to same sex couples. that is pretty freaking conservative if you ask me. I don't know what else you have to believe in to be a right winger.

that said if the economy is still bad or takes a nosedive Obama will be vulnerable. If he passes a health care bill that clearly is going to bankrupt the country he will be vulnerable. If there is another terrorist attack on US soil he could be vulnerable.

As far as Romney in the drivers seat, it really depends on where you sit. I think he leads one of the now four factions of the republican party. There is the group that is led by guys like him and Giuliani who want to tone down the social conservative stuff and focus on the economy. There is a faction that is led by Palin and Huckabee who wants to ratchet up the social conservative stuff and move the part back to the far tight to regain the base. There is the faction that is led by Limbaugh which is the group that is basically just against anything that Obama and the democrats are for and there is the group that is led by Gingrich and the new head of the RNC Steele that really don't seem to have any agenda and are just waiting for the democrats to screw up. So anyone who wants to be the republican candidate and wants a shot at actually winning will have to somehow bring all these groups together.

Right now is a prime time for someone like Ron Paul to actually step up and splinter off into a different group and gain some power, but I doubt that will happen because he seems to be more talk than action.

I still think the main problem Palin has is that she accepted the offer to be the VP candidate too soon. The difference between her and Obama is that he spent the last 2-3 years preparing to run. He had answers to questions and knew the issues. She came off like she had just wiped the mud from her boots and got up on the podium. She has a bad image in a lot of people's eyes and she will have to spend a lot of her time just repairing that already tarnished image. Even in her own state her luster has worn off. There are polls that show in 2007 right after the election she had around a 90% approval rating. Now she has about a 54% rating and there are other polls showing that if the current republican Senator from that state ran for governor against Palin she would probably win. I guess Palin decided to bail before she potentially lost that race which would have destroyed her politically.
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