Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

its not about what i "know" and "don't know"

if it was Bush, you (and everyone else defending Obama) would be talking about what a horrible, lying asshole he was, spoon feeding the masses propaganda under the guise of "open discussion"

i'm not as biased as you are. i would call Bush an asshole and Obama an asshole... because at the end of the day, its a lie.