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Old 07-25-2009, 05:13 PM  
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OK, so the hospitals should pay for taking care of people who can't afford to pay. Where's this magic money going to come from? Because under your in-a-nutshell proposal there, they can't raise rates directly to YOU, they can't get it from insurance companies (it would trickle down to YOU with higher rates) and they can't get it from the govt (it would trickle down to YOU with higher taxes).

What, they should have a bake sale? I'm not saying you're necessarily WRONG, just trying to get a full picture of your logic and how it fits into the real world.



Again, not saying you're necessarily WRONG, and certainly not saying the "current plan" (whichever plan that may be, there are multiple ones floating around) is perfect. I haven't read every word of every proposal, but I don't remember seeing that insurance companies would not be able to take on new customers. I'm sure you'll quote something, that's fine, just make sure it comes from a neutral source and cite the source.



Maybe. The only real solution is to totally scrap everything about our healthcare system -- medicare, medicaid and all insurance companies -- and rebuild from the ground up, in whatever direction that may be, totally govt-run or totally free market. That obviously can't happen, so whatever we end up with, no matter what side proposes it, it's going to be a Frankenstein's monster that is going to screw SOMEBODY over. There's no avoiding that.
Where would the money come from? People like you, tony, me and others that want to help people so instead of the government coming to your house with guns to take the money you freely give your money to a hospital that you wish to have your money.

When I say current plan I am talking about the plan that is in congress right now. I would have to dig up the quotes the bill is 1000 plus pages.

Here is part of it "Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day" of the year the legislation becomes law.

I personally think all insurances should be made illegal. They are just a form of subsidy. Hospitals would be forced to charge what the avg customer could afford, or even have a sliding scale, what ever worked for them.
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