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Old 07-27-2009, 07:45 PM  
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Originally Posted by gideongallery View Post
you don't get it
that one tube site
this video could/would have been submitted to dozens

vs national rating of a show across all the local affiliates that relayed programming.

second so what if it takes 20 months to get those viewership, product placement is a long term advertising solution
Because you can't guarantee the viewings of those people, for the product, when it's shown. Because the unique viewing across all of them is unknown. This nobody is paying worth a crap.

I might as well open a clip store.


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again this comes down to not understanding q-ratio. I suggest you actually look at episode of mowe referenced download it and watch. count the number of minutes that that edwards sport car was featured in the entire 2 hours episode (1.5 hours without commercial)
When you can prove it was viewed vs. not being to prove it viewed, the product that is? That's what the ratio is about.. product exposure time?

Crazy, you solved a problem the entire Internet is having.


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Originally Posted by gideongallery View Post
getting coke to do a product placement in porn is like trying to sell tampons at a guys only gay bar. Get prodcut placements that are contextually relevent.

if you don't waste your time trying to get irrelevant placements. it not a waste. specifically because the views gotten when the content is pirated can count.

you make money when your video is "Stolen". You actually turn the problem into the solution.
Exactly... it's not easy to get mainstream companies to pay you for product placement. And it's damn sure not easy to find companies that pay a big enough price tag that it makes a difference to you.

You aren't bringing in some jr sales rep to just round up the folks.


It's not like what you are suggesting is new, text, visual, a sound any of it It has been done and tried in porn. One of the largest programs has done it several times.

It's a question of, profit.. people in mainstream video online with far more views than adult tubes are having a hell of a time making money on them, because nobody can prove the product was viewed.

It's not a tv show, it's not a series that people watch a story line on. People watch fucking, they want to see the action, they don't want to hear you say you used johnson and johnson cream to keep your nuts silky smooth.

It would be different if we could control the videos on an illegal tube like we can on youtube. That's outside placement that won't drive our members crazy.


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mowe cost 5 million + an episode to film
the average porn video if your lucky 2-3 grand.


if you got .1% of the success you would be turning a massive profit on this type of product placement.
They don't want a video, they want a series. And our members, don't want to see crap like this in videos they paid for, when all they want is the action.

We're talking chump change to get paid for product placement. It's only $10k to get you Website featured on a Hollywood movie. What do you think we are going to get? It's like $100.. not even worth the staff member to call someone.
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