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Originally Posted by Barefootsies
Exactly right.
This is a business. It would be nice to see more business minded folk in this thread. The facts are the facts in 2009 and it is clear in the trades, and on the boards....
Programs can't keep afford to pay these affiliate ransoms for PPS. Period.
They are gouging their content budgets for traffic and crossing their toes for sales. It is not working. No new content. Rotating the old. Not rebilling for shit. Over reliance on cross sales and other tactics. Programs are teetering on collapse. Any good business owner would find a more reliable, stable, way of controlling costs and remaining in business especially in an ever competitive market place.
The time has come for change, and many of the affiliates are being squeezed out. It should be interesting to see who is left in this industry come Vegas show in January.
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They flock in for the illusion of big PPS bucks.. right..
So they'll flock in to be employees for a tiny fraction of the bucks, like the average american employee... right?
Or you'll hire indians.. why not, they speak english better than us, now..
Seems like the PPS is unsustainable by a 100% honest program.. it's too much.. and trying to con traffic gurus into becoming employees .. it's too little for them .. and too much extra cost for you
Will it save you alot of money?
I don't have the experience to say.. I do know that you take on alot of liability having employees rather than having affiliates. Any time one of the mindless little turds fucks something up guess who they're (f_i, mom&dad, some big service they spammed) coming screaming and crying and throwing lawsuits at... It's YOU.
Employees are going to expect more of you, too- alot more. They're NOT employees because they DON'T need their hands held.
Hiring people based on this would make sense, yeah?.. Come in and be self employed, do ____ all day for us and go home. Don't let them smell the money.. I guess... like the other guy said if they know they're making YOU the bucks they're out the door.. why not.
I BET THAT YOU COULD TEACH PEOPLE TO DO WHAT YOU NEED DONE WITHOUT LETTING THEM LEARN HOW.. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS BREAK IT DOWN INTO DIFFERENT STEPS HANDLED BY DIFFERENT BODIES.. I LOVE THAT IDEA.
I just don't understand throwing away 100+ people or even 1000 people who are actively and self sufficiently promoting YOU .. All you have to do is provide promo material and they run with it.
Like being motherfucking SYNDICATED. Publish it once and these guys all go out and use it to promote you.
I don't understand how that happens in house. All of these people out there promoting and working around the fucking clock without you being ONE BIT LIABLE for what they manage to fuck up (unless they invite alot of fraud.. but you have your eyes on thigs and you take care of potential problems anyway)
Plus.. who ever said that affiliates get half?
90% of the time, where the FUCK is my credit for your upsells in your members area if you give me 50%? What about the sales I somehow don't get credited for, for a plethora of reasons.. it happens.. to all of us.. period.. What about the e-mails you send 2-3 months later, all of those people who sign up again .. my customers you decide to keep..
60% can become 25% real fucking quick.
PPS I believe really does hurt.. but you all have checked sales.. and I don't believe any program is crediting me 100% of my PPS sales, anyway... miss one here, miss one there, an upsell here, another leak there, some spam later on to steal a customer I brought in, it all evens out..... right?!
THIS IS NOT DIRECTED AT ANY PARTICULAR PROGRAM OR MEANT TO BE OVERLY CRITICAL. AND I HAVE NOT SLEPT FOR 2 DAYS. SO IF I SOUND OVERLY CRITICAL, I'M SORRY.. FEEL FREE TO EXPAND ON WHAT I HAVE SAID.. LIKE I SAID, I'VE NOT GOT THE EXPERIENCE, MEANING I'VE NEVER OWNED OR RAN A PROGRAM.