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Originally Posted by gideongallery
your above solution significantly reduces the marketplace for a tube site .
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sure it does if 99% of the content they receive is stolen content
. If they can't prove they own the content they are submitting then tube sites couldn't use stolen content. pretty simple 1+1=2 logic there.
Now if someone is submitting self produced content then how hard is it for them to record themselves saying " this is for xtube or redtube". You mean to tell me they can make a 5 minute or 50 minute video doing whatever but they cant make a 5 second clip to say " this is for whatever site"?
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Originally Posted by gideongallery
you could require an independent verification, phone and address verification
hell new computers have biomentrics your could go that far. It would totally screw you over in terms of your total market size, but since your above solution does the same to tube sites, it would be hypocritical to complain.
any way if you were criminally liable for each one of these joins i am pretty certain you would come up with solution that reduces that number to zero..
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the minor who has his daddy's credit card will also know his own address lol. If you call him on the phone how can you tell if someone is 17 or 18 on the phone? there would be nothing to match the biomentrics to.
If i was criminally liable because a minor stole his dads credit card and joined my site to see nudity, I wouldn't be in the adult business because everyone of us would be sitting ducks. Now if I was liable because someone stole a credit card to access porn, what do you think would happen to the tube sites that show graphic nudity that had no safe guards in place. At least in my case the minor would have to commit a crime to access the nudity.
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Originally Posted by gideongallery
thank god i am canadian  .. |
I'm proud to be an american even though some of our laws are stupid. It could be a lot worse.
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4th the RIAA spend 3.25 for each dollar of judgement they got, and every win is being appealed over and over again now.
Most end up with ruling in the favor of the sharer. :..
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Really i never heard about the ones in favor of the sharer just the ones that got nailed with 100K's of thousands of dollars in fines. Actually I think it is safe to say most "settle" from what I heard. It's those few that don't that got nailed with crazy fines.
So if it cost more to litagate than what the judgements are, or collected judgements.... How much do you think these membership sites are losing because their product is being stolen and shared for free by these people. You are not factoring in the intangibles, that if the porn industry went after people aggressivly it might spend 1 million dollars to get back 300K in cash, but it would reduce people from "sharing" errr... stealing. The less your product is stolen and given away the more sales you going to make. Also, it is stupid to make 100K judgements against these people. 99% of the people stealing content and sharing it are not going to be able to afford to fork over 100K. Just sue their ass for an amount that 99% of them can afford, or that isn't too big that they wont want to go bankrupt over. If they need to get a second mortgage on their house to pay a 10K fine because they thought it was cool to steal content and share it with 1000's of people, then hit them where it does the most damage. And every month they pay off that mortgage they might think twice about how cool it was.
The "sharer" is a thief. He knows he does not have a legal right to distribute the content. That is cut and dry. The tube site is the grey area and has level of protection currently at least.
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Originally Posted by gideongallery
user submitted is the biggest competitive advantage a tube site can have, they would be stupid to give it up.
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I know of at least 1 top tube site that only works with content they own or only select programs they do business with, I am pretty sure a good bit more do it. It is also very easy to fake user submitted quality content.