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Joe King · 09-04-2009, 06:44 PM

True story

Back in 99 I was living in Miami and was flat ass broke. I had lost everything in a business venture. All I had was a new Toyota 4 Runner and $400 cash. I was so broke I could not even afford my apartment or my car. So I moved out and stayed with friends/family and even slept in my car some nights. I am not joking.

So I moved to LA because some other family members were living here. I found a roommate situation in a shitty little house (shitty is too nice a word to describe the place). I got a job as a bartender at a really exclusive private dinner club. This was the type of place captains of industry would hang out at. I met people like Bill Gates and venture capitalists there all the time. Talking to these people was interesting, I loved soaking up their energy.

I saved up about $6k cash. I turned my new 4 runner into the bank and I went out and bought a old Honda Civic for about $1,300. I know I was just a bartender but these people would get crazy drunk sometimes and lean over and whisper ticker symbols into my ear from time to time. Eventually someone told me about a Biotech company called Dendrion (DNDN). I took my $6k and started up an account with Scottrade. I bought DNDN and a few days later it fucking doubled. Now I had $12k! YAY

I proceeded to trade stocks and eventually lost about $4k so I cashed out with $8k

BTW you dumb fucks this was 10 fucking years ago and the people would never give me inside info they would just tell me the ticker symbols and wink so go ahead and call up the SEC

I FUCKING hate working for other people so eventually began drinking on the job. The last few weeks there were a blur. I eventually got so drunk one night that I could not even function. I was fired the next day.

I go on unemployment and decide to start a business. I incorporated my first company in 2000 and began to sell things online. Somehow I got turned onto a mailer forum called "The Bulk Barn" and found out about Lightspeed Marketing who sold the spam program "Super Server". I bought a CD of email addys and found a cracked copy of Super Server and began to mail from one computer hooked up to a DSL line. I began to make about $1k to $2k a week and it was just in time because my unemployment benefits were running out and I had burned through my $8k in savings.

I needed to install more DSL lines and the provider would not put more than one in my apartment for whatever reason so I went out and got a little office. I put up 4 more lines in the tiny office and outfitted some boxes with a newer version (also cracked) of SuperServer. I was spending so much time at the office I just moved out of the shitty place I was living and began to just work around the clock at the office and also sleeping there. I began making about 4k a week.

I was still driving that $1,300 Honda Civic.

I also began to sell bulk friendly hosting because I made friends with a guy in China who used to sell that shitty spam program "Flash Send Mail" His name is Yongxin Nie. I was facinated by this guy because I knew he made about $500k a year yet the Chinese goverment would not let him leave the country. Communists!

So I was not doing biz with scores of other spammers by selling them spam friendly servers in China. I would pay just a few hundred dollars a month for a server and re-sell accounts for many times that price. This was a nice income and gave me connections which I used to create my spammy empire.

By this time I was making about $15k a month steady. I got rid of the Civic and bought another nice 4-runner. It was used and I paid cash.

Now this whole time I was mostly mailing for mainstream stuff because the adult people I hooked up with always seemed shady. I remember mailing some stuff for a guy who said I would not get turned off if I mailed for Xpays (under his account). I did a test and pumped about a few million mails and got shut off the same day. LOL!!! I said "fuck it" and went back to mailing mainstream stuff like mortgage leads, Viagra, dating, ink refills and toners (yeah really

)

I got out of the hosting because it was too fucking time consuming dealing with getting calls at 3 am from angry mailers wondering why their Chinese server was down. Hosting also brought me lots of unwanted attention from the anti spammers like Shiksaa and that crusty old fuck Steve Linford of Spanhaus. Those tools would have their buddies hack me all the fucking time. One guy called up up and threatened to my friends/family that I watched tranny porn if I did not stop hosting spammers. That dried up bitch Shiksaa would even call me herself sometimes. Susan was her name I think. Some guy tracked her down and even let all the other spammers know her home address. That cut off her balls for a while

So I stopped the hosting because it was too taxing and I knew I could make a hell of a lot more money if I spent all my time mailing. I got a big office and lots of separate DSL accounts. I think I had about 15 separate DSL lines and added more amd more as I streamlined my operations.

At this time I rented a huge house for the first time in my life. Really nice and everything was new. I decked it out and even put in a few DSL lines there to spam

About this time somene sold me a list they claimed was the IBill data base. I can't remember how much I paid for it. I think I might have traded some other addys as part of the deal. Anyway a friend had a porn site and was processing with EPOCH. He had some script which would hide the fact that the processor was EPOCH so it would reduce the complaints down to the few NAZI anti spammers who would actually sign up to see what company was involved. This is when the money really began to roll in. I was making about $100k a month. I had fucking computers everywhere humming 24 hours a day cranking out mails. I had about 25 million good addys and would mail that list every fucking day and would hit each addy with multiple spams for various products.

People would walk by my office and see like 30 computers stacked up on top of each other all fucking working their asses off. The attorney who had an office a few doors down would call me a "mad scientist".

Epoch eventually got kinda pissed and the script was not working anymore for whatever reason. I guess Epoch changed something. My friend was handling that so I am not sure what happened.

I was still mailing lots of mainstream in addition to the adult. Our porn site was total fucking garbage. I did not even beat off to our site, instead I would just beat off to free sites

All this time I never hired a single person becuase the way I was making money. I was affraid the cops would bust down my door at any second.

You see I was using IP binding. I was actually using Microsoft IP addresses to spam. Before I was using AOL but that quit working for IP binding. IP binding was in SuperServer so you could use your DSL account for bandwidth but the actual IP that showed up was AOL or MSN. I figured that at some point they would not find it too funny and come knockin on my door but never happened. I just kept crainking it out week after week, month after month. Each time something stopped working I would find a new way to mail.

I was working 16 hour days every day. By 2004 I was BURNT!!!! I began drinking really heavy because I was so numb from all the work. But I knew that this might be my shot at reaching the "multi-millionaire mark" and I did not want to miss it. Hell just a few years earlier I was living out of my car

So 2004 comes around with the Can Spam act. I was burnt out beyond belief. My IP binding was not working anymore. I was fat. Stressed out to the point I looked like total shit. That golden IBILL list was fucking spammed into outer space. I KILLED THOSE PEOPLE

So I decided to take my bankroll and get the fuck out of the business for a few years. I traveled, had some cosmetic surgery, got in really good shape, and stopped drinking and smoking.

Now I fuck around with Forex, precious metals, stocks, etc. I have a few sites I am developing as well.

Ok ok ok, so I started up the drinking and smoking again this year.

Oh, I don't own a car as my GF drives me everywhere I go

So I did not make anywhere near as much as that guy Quiet but I did like he did and found something that works and scaled it out. I could have gotten bigger had I mailed more adult and also hired employees but I felt I could not trust most of the people in adult and it is very important for me to avoid being fucked out of money. If someone fucks me out of money I will be forced to show up on their doorstep with a shotgun. So I avoided most of the mailing opportunites and just mailed to my own shiity excuse for a porn site. I mean my site was worse than free sites. LOL!!!!

I went to a few shows in 2002 and 2003 and did the piles of coke, fucked whores, met some of you people who post on this board, etc etc. That was fun. Glad I have those memories.

Even after I quit my rebills from the porn site continued for about a year or so. Epoch kept sending me checks. Some of my former mainstream clients had to go out of business because I just kinda stopped suddenly and they were relying on me for my sales. I was too burned out to find a new way to mail. It was time to retire.

09-04-2009, 06:44 PM
Joe King Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: In the City of Wonder Posts: 613	my spammy little life True story Back in 99 I was living in Miami and was flat ass broke. I had lost everything in a business venture. All I had was a new Toyota 4 Runner and $400 cash. I was so broke I could not even afford my apartment or my car. So I moved out and stayed with friends/family and even slept in my car some nights. I am not joking. So I moved to LA because some other family members were living here. I found a roommate situation in a shitty little house (shitty is too nice a word to describe the place). I got a job as a bartender at a really exclusive private dinner club. This was the type of place captains of industry would hang out at. I met people like Bill Gates and venture capitalists there all the time. Talking to these people was interesting, I loved soaking up their energy. I saved up about $6k cash. I turned my new 4 runner into the bank and I went out and bought a old Honda Civic for about $1,300. I know I was just a bartender but these people would get crazy drunk sometimes and lean over and whisper ticker symbols into my ear from time to time. Eventually someone told me about a Biotech company called Dendrion (DNDN). I took my $6k and started up an account with Scottrade. I bought DNDN and a few days later it fucking doubled. Now I had $12k! YAY I proceeded to trade stocks and eventually lost about $4k so I cashed out with $8k BTW you dumb fucks this was 10 fucking years ago and the people would never give me inside info they would just tell me the ticker symbols and wink so go ahead and call up the SEC I FUCKING hate working for other people so eventually began drinking on the job. The last few weeks there were a blur. I eventually got so drunk one night that I could not even function. I was fired the next day. I go on unemployment and decide to start a business. I incorporated my first company in 2000 and began to sell things online. Somehow I got turned onto a mailer forum called "The Bulk Barn" and found out about Lightspeed Marketing who sold the spam program "Super Server". I bought a CD of email addys and found a cracked copy of Super Server and began to mail from one computer hooked up to a DSL line. I began to make about $1k to $2k a week and it was just in time because my unemployment benefits were running out and I had burned through my $8k in savings. I needed to install more DSL lines and the provider would not put more than one in my apartment for whatever reason so I went out and got a little office. I put up 4 more lines in the tiny office and outfitted some boxes with a newer version (also cracked) of SuperServer. I was spending so much time at the office I just moved out of the shitty place I was living and began to just work around the clock at the office and also sleeping there. I began making about 4k a week. I was still driving that $1,300 Honda Civic. I also began to sell bulk friendly hosting because I made friends with a guy in China who used to sell that shitty spam program "Flash Send Mail" His name is Yongxin Nie. I was facinated by this guy because I knew he made about $500k a year yet the Chinese goverment would not let him leave the country. Communists! So I was not doing biz with scores of other spammers by selling them spam friendly servers in China. I would pay just a few hundred dollars a month for a server and re-sell accounts for many times that price. This was a nice income and gave me connections which I used to create my spammy empire. By this time I was making about $15k a month steady. I got rid of the Civic and bought another nice 4-runner. It was used and I paid cash. Now this whole time I was mostly mailing for mainstream stuff because the adult people I hooked up with always seemed shady. I remember mailing some stuff for a guy who said I would not get turned off if I mailed for Xpays (under his account). I did a test and pumped about a few million mails and got shut off the same day. LOL!!! I said "fuck it" and went back to mailing mainstream stuff like mortgage leads, Viagra, dating, ink refills and toners (yeah really ) I got out of the hosting because it was too fucking time consuming dealing with getting calls at 3 am from angry mailers wondering why their Chinese server was down. Hosting also brought me lots of unwanted attention from the anti spammers like Shiksaa and that crusty old fuck Steve Linford of Spanhaus. Those tools would have their buddies hack me all the fucking time. One guy called up up and threatened to my friends/family that I watched tranny porn if I did not stop hosting spammers. That dried up bitch Shiksaa would even call me herself sometimes. Susan was her name I think. Some guy tracked her down and even let all the other spammers know her home address. That cut off her balls for a while So I stopped the hosting because it was too taxing and I knew I could make a hell of a lot more money if I spent all my time mailing. I got a big office and lots of separate DSL accounts. I think I had about 15 separate DSL lines and added more amd more as I streamlined my operations. At this time I rented a huge house for the first time in my life. Really nice and everything was new. I decked it out and even put in a few DSL lines there to spam About this time somene sold me a list they claimed was the IBill data base. I can't remember how much I paid for it. I think I might have traded some other addys as part of the deal. Anyway a friend had a porn site and was processing with EPOCH. He had some script which would hide the fact that the processor was EPOCH so it would reduce the complaints down to the few NAZI anti spammers who would actually sign up to see what company was involved. This is when the money really began to roll in. I was making about $100k a month. I had fucking computers everywhere humming 24 hours a day cranking out mails. I had about 25 million good addys and would mail that list every fucking day and would hit each addy with multiple spams for various products. People would walk by my office and see like 30 computers stacked up on top of each other all fucking working their asses off. The attorney who had an office a few doors down would call me a "mad scientist". Epoch eventually got kinda pissed and the script was not working anymore for whatever reason. I guess Epoch changed something. My friend was handling that so I am not sure what happened. I was still mailing lots of mainstream in addition to the adult. Our porn site was total fucking garbage. I did not even beat off to our site, instead I would just beat off to free sites All this time I never hired a single person becuase the way I was making money. I was affraid the cops would bust down my door at any second. You see I was using IP binding. I was actually using Microsoft IP addresses to spam. Before I was using AOL but that quit working for IP binding. IP binding was in SuperServer so you could use your DSL account for bandwidth but the actual IP that showed up was AOL or MSN. I figured that at some point they would not find it too funny and come knockin on my door but never happened. I just kept crainking it out week after week, month after month. Each time something stopped working I would find a new way to mail. I was working 16 hour days every day. By 2004 I was BURNT!!!! I began drinking really heavy because I was so numb from all the work. But I knew that this might be my shot at reaching the "multi-millionaire mark" and I did not want to miss it. Hell just a few years earlier I was living out of my car So 2004 comes around with the Can Spam act. I was burnt out beyond belief. My IP binding was not working anymore. I was fat. Stressed out to the point I looked like total shit. That golden IBILL list was fucking spammed into outer space. I KILLED THOSE PEOPLE So I decided to take my bankroll and get the fuck out of the business for a few years. I traveled, had some cosmetic surgery, got in really good shape, and stopped drinking and smoking. Now I fuck around with Forex, precious metals, stocks, etc. I have a few sites I am developing as well. Ok ok ok, so I started up the drinking and smoking again this year. Oh, I don't own a car as my GF drives me everywhere I go So I did not make anywhere near as much as that guy Quiet but I did like he did and found something that works and scaled it out. I could have gotten bigger had I mailed more adult and also hired employees but I felt I could not trust most of the people in adult and it is very important for me to avoid being fucked out of money. If someone fucks me out of money I will be forced to show up on their doorstep with a shotgun. So I avoided most of the mailing opportunites and just mailed to my own shiity excuse for a porn site. I mean my site was worse than free sites. LOL!!!! I went to a few shows in 2002 and 2003 and did the piles of coke, fucked whores, met some of you people who post on this board, etc etc. That was fun. Glad I have those memories. Even after I quit my rebills from the porn site continued for about a year or so. Epoch kept sending me checks. Some of my former mainstream clients had to go out of business because I just kinda stopped suddenly and they were relying on me for my sales. I was too burned out to find a new way to mail. It was time to retire.