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Originally Posted by NYRangers
Holy fuck you can't be serious. Do you even think about what you have written before you hit the submit button?
Let's start with this, "Not sure what to make of the OP but I do know that if I end up getting fucked by a sponsor, I will throw all of my ethics out of the window and I will rip their content until I am compensated for what I have earned. Its no different for shooting content and then not paying your talent." Think like a thief, act like a thief, you are a thief. Unless of course you are just some immature fool spouting off at the mouth to act like a tuff guy/girl(?).
I'm not quoting the second paragraph because it is too long. I just want to say this. If a program is really holding back the sales you think you have then why would you even hesitate to mention it? Who are you protecting? The program that you think is ripping you off? Your reputation because it might be damaged if it is found that you are wrong? Other sponsors? The last one can't be right otherwise you would let everyone know what issue you are having with the program in question.
This one I am absolutely fucking tired of, "What can you really do about that? Nothing. Affiliates have to trust that program owners are being honest and are keeping up with their books. But I do bet there are some programs that play "fraud" card because there is no way an affiliate can dispute it or prove the program is lying and its easy cash especially in tough times." Any affiliate with half a brain can tell if they are being ripped off. It's about time someone stands up and tells "affiliates" to give it a rest with the fraud and shaving accusations. There are plenty of programs that tolerate neither. I take exception to the bullshit fraud and shaving accusations.
I'll end with the last sentence, "I don't ever steal unless stolen from." Nice logic. Grow up. You just called yourself a thief and that makes you no better than anyone you are calling out.
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The only reason I have not outed them yet is because they say they are going over the system to see if there is a glitch and I'm not asshole, I'll give them their time and if they do not deliver, then its out they come.
If I do the work, I deserve to be paid for my efforts provided I adhere to the TOS for promoting the sponsor. Again, you miss the point. If you steal money earned from my pocket, fuck yeah I'm gonna rip your content and make sure I make my money I am earned.
You can be tired of affiliates raising the questions of "fraud cards" or shaving but you are foolish if you do not think it occurs. It happened when times were good and I am positive that is occurring that times are bad. That said, I am sure its a small number if it is occurring. But honestly, what power does affiliates have IF it is occurring? Not send any more traffic? Big deal. The affiliate would still be out money in the end.
Do any programs have their program books audited by an independent third party to make sure all affiliates are being paid correctly? Furthermore, why if a customer uses a fraudulent CC to get some free porn without the affiliate knowing what has occurred should lose all of their sales and not just the fraudulent one?
I am all for ethical biz practices provided everyone plays by the rules. The second anyone breaks those rules, they should expect the same done to them. You want "turn the other cheek"? Go get religion. Biz is "eye for an eye". Everyone else does it, why not me? (note, Im not saying steal for the fun or profit of it but Im sure you will find a way to twist it to that.)