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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor
Yeah, because Belfort was a better boxer with faster hands. There wasn't a single ounce of jiu jitsu in that fight, yet you're using it as an example of how BJJ is superior to everything else.
You're hardly an honest broker on this subject.
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Sorry, I thought a guy who was a bad ass could beat a trained fighter, wasn't that what you said?
YOU FORGOT TO MENTION FRANK MIR WHO TAPPED OUT TANK IN LESS THAN A MINUTE.
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The problem with discussions like these is that people become personally invested in these things.
A guy who spends years training in a certain discipline (no matter what that discipline is) gets offended when someone tells him that it sucks, or that there's something else better. They go to great lengths to defend their discipline, because in doing so they're trying to validate themselves and the time investment and sweat equity they've put into it.
The same thing is true of people who own a Chevy when talking to a Ford owner, a guy who went to Ohio State when talking to someone from Michigan, even people who host at Webair when someone starts a "webair sucks" thread.
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TOTAL Strawman argument. You don't fight, or train for that matter. So how would you know what works? There's a reason why the three main martial arts used in MMA are Muay Thai, Wrestling, and BJJ. Because they have proven to be effective over any martial art in their ranges, Striking (Muay Thai), Clinch/Takedown (Wrestling), and Submissions (BJJ). So kindly shut the fuck up over your red herrings that have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with fighting.
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No, UFC 1-4 proved that Royce Gracie was the best fighter out of all the people who entered UFC 1-4.
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A 170lbs man who beat 250 plus fighters, a Ken Shamrock who trained submissions, and was already King of Pancrase in Japan. How did he do it? Gracie Jiu Jitsu, plain and simple. Grappling beats striking in their ranges 9 times out of 10. It's been proven, go to your local BJJ gym and try it out for yourself. I took my biz partner to a BJJ class tonight courtesy of Just Dave XXX and opened his eyes to BJJ.
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The conclusion you're trying to draw would be like me saying that Super Bowl 19 is empirical proof that the west coast offense is the best offense ever created, bar none.
Or that Super Bowl 20 is empirical proof that the 46 defense is the best defense ever created, bar none.
While the schemes being used are important, it was the talent and execution of the players that won those games, and players as talented as those probably could have won with the power I formation or a 3-4 defense also.
Of course I don't expect you to be reasonable about this, you have BJJ tourrette's, but everyone else reading this will get the point. 
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Your analogy is both lacking and idiotic. You are comparing a football game to combat. Which shows both your stupidity with regards to the subject, and your lacking in cohesive debating.
BJJ which was used and reigned supreme in the FIRST 4 UFC's, the early PRIDE FIGHTING CHAMPIONSHIPS, and any other fighting org in the early days of MMA. To be a complete fighter in MMA you must be learn BJJ, or Sambo, and Ne Waza heavy Judo. In fact, there are more champions in the UFC with BJJ Blackbelts than any other style. Including the rek neck fave, and yours Brock Lessnar. Why is that? Game over, you lose.
Brock Lessnar - Purple Belt BJJ
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An astonishing exhibition win for UFC Heavyweight Champion, Brock Lesnar as he submitted Brazillian Jiu Jitsu Champion Gabriel ?Napao� Gonzaga in a grappling match after he and training partner Chris Tuchscherer were invited to to Ludlow, Massachusetts to attend a seminar.
The heavyweight champion immediately took down Gonzaga, landing in his half guard then passed to side control after Gonzaga attempted to replace his guard. Lesnar then quickly transitioned to north-south holding on to Gonzaga?s right wrist and as Gonzaga tried to bump up onto his side, Lesnar pulled the arm into a kimura and submitted the Jiu Jitsu ace in just under 50 seconds.
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Why would Brock need BJJ? Oh yeah, he got fucking submitted by knee bar by Frank Mir, a BJJ Black Belt in their first fight. Guess he learned he needed it.
Light Heavyweight - Lyoto Machida - BJJ Blackbelt
Middleweight - Anderson Silva - BJJ Blackbelt
Welterweight - Georges St. Pierre - BJJ BLackbelt
Lightweight - BJ Penn = BJJ Blackbelt
Give it up, you lost.