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Old 11-04-2009, 11:42 PM  
kane
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This is an entertaining thread.

The reality is that the election of GOP governors in NJ and VA has very little to do with Obama and anti-democrat sentiment. In both states the exit polls showed that the majority (over 50%) of the voters in those states still hold Obama in a positive light.

In NJ they have the highest property taxes in the nation as well as a lot of corruption. Yes, Obama went there three times to campaign for them, but Corzine is not well liked in the state and was bound to lose to just about anyone.

In VA they still have as strong conservative base and he won. That is it. It doesn't mean the nation is turning republican. If it did then why did the democrat in NY win when that district has elected a republican since the civil war? Of course you could say it is because the republicans fucked it up and attacked their own candidate for not being conservative enough then she dropped out when the republicans started backing an independent who doesn't even live in the district and knows nothing about the local politics of the area. So does that mean that the republican party is still in shambles? No.

These are just local and state elections. Every year since 1989 the off year elections in NJ and VA have gone against the party that had won the white house in the previous year. I don't know why, it just is. It means nothing. I can say that tomorrow morning Megan Fox is going to give me a lap dance then let me tit fuck her. . . it doesn't make it so.

The bottom line is that most of the people in this country want health care reform. The problem is our elected officials are unable to actually deliver that. If they aren't worried about getting elected they are worried about pissing off big insurance who finance their re-election bids. The republicans have no interest in health care reform. The only reason they are even talking about it now is because the democrats are in power and are forcing the issue. If McCain had won health care would not even be mentioned.

My prediction is that one of the following will happen:

1. They will pass a health care reform bill and it will do very little to actually reform health care so we will continue as we are now which means in about 15-20 the cost of health care will be destroying the the middle class.

or

2. They will pass a big bill and it will reform health care and in some cases it will actually do good things and help a lot of people. But they will grossly underestimate the cost of it, it will get bloated, corrupt and be mismanaged and it will be enormously expensive and in 15-20 years the cost of it will be destroying the middle class in this country.
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