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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
No, the TNO paper you refered to. They conclude that "material" welfare is transfered to the consumer, and "cultural" welfare has increased. Now, is that a surprise for you? That's what socialism/piracy is all about.
I think you should also read their recommendations, especially this one:
Don?t ?criminalise? individual end users - educate them
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uggg.. it's a cultural study, with the data in it.. you're getting stuck on details outside the subject... which is, piracy hurts sales, income, etc..
"The research shows that the economic implications of file sharing for welfare in the
Netherlands are strongly positive in the short and long terms. File sharing provides
consumers with access to a broad range of cultural products, which typically raises
welfare. Conversely, the practice is believed to result in a decline in sales of CDs,
DVDs and games."
Economic implications of file sharing, is positive in the short and long term. It doesn't hurt CD, DVD or game sales.
That's the point...
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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
I disagree when it comes to those scumbags making money of the infringements, but for the rest, education is surely needed. Didn't their mama not learn them not to steal? Didn't they learn that if everyone steal or not work, then there will be no one left to support each other?
Education is needed, and pro-piracy proganda on forums is not the way exactly...
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You aren't going to mass educate the population on what they call, sharing. We were taught to share, so things would really have to change.
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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
There are many reasons, also complementary reasons, but the numbers do not prove what you try to say. Lets put it this way, quite simple: If you watched a movie.. or downloaded a site-rip - has the chances of you paying for it afterward improved? Answer me - honestly 
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If it's good, hell yeah, without question.
Even myself, kungfu, cartoons, music even on gfy... hell yeah.. I'm not afraid to spend money on things I like.. I am afraid to spend money on shit sold to me as good.
Just like the guy on gfy... canned off xbox for pirating a game but has $15k in games.
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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
Doh again. It's a no brainer that some legal ISP portal have license for the downloads they offer their customers - and torrent sites mostly not. Do you need research papers for that?
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Huh? You assume torrents don't have legal content on them?
Hahaha... please.. People release music, even movies get released ONLY on torrents, everything.
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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
Social societies is not the same as socialism
And what do you mean by piracy is "working"? They are destroying everything artists, writers, yes even porn industry have been fighting for the hole time; free speech and freedoms. And then they have the nerves to whine about it afterwards? As I said, pirates are not "pirates" anymore - who at least can admit what they are doing is wrong.
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Hahaha...... other than they have been praising it, other than bands have been releasing music on torrents.. writers have been sharing ideas pre-releasing books, then building massive followings, and selling out, without anyone printing the thing.
Wow... you really have no idea what's REALLY going on.