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Originally Posted by kane
I'm not saying kill the technology. I am saying make people responsible. Call me crazy, but asking people not to steal shouldn't be too big of a thing to ask. If an artist wants to control how their art is distributed, they should be allowed to do so. If they only want paying customers to have their music, they should be allowed that right.
Many torrent sites facilitate theft. It is that simple. You can shut down torrent sites that do this and still keep the technology alive.
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but your solution to make them responsible is designed to kill the technology
if you don't make sure 100% (no safe harbor) that the content is authorized you get hit with 25k is statutory damages.
well there are examples of companies going to that extreme and it results in artist getting censored.
http://torrentfreak.com/copyright-dr...yspace-091007/
That what the safe harbor is designed to protect
you keep saying it not a big deal and it can easily be done, but it just as hard to get absolute proof without making mistakes like this as to guarrentee that you never sell porn to minors (including when little jim steals his dad credit card).
let me ask you a question if laws were changed so that YOU got convicted for distributing porn to minors every time little jim abused your signup process (with his dads stolen credit card) how would you run your paysite.
Could you make money under that restriction
if the answer is no, you have proven the point i was making, the new restriction is designed to kill the technology.
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You can make a gun and use it for law enforcement or to protect yourself, but you can also use it to rob someone. If you choose to use the gun to commit a crime you are punished for it, the same should go for those that choose to steal music/movies and those that facilitate that theft.
Now is where you give me the explanation of how the torrent sites aren't giving the product to the person and that each seeder is only giving a small piece of the product so they aren't breaking the law. It is all technicality bullshit that thieves are hiding behind. If I give you a bullet knowing you are going to put it in a gun and shoot someone, I didn't shoot them. I didn't drive you to the scene of the crime. I didn't give you the gun. I only contributed a tiny little piece of the puzzle but I still bear some of the responsibility.
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right and walmart is partially responsible for every death because if they didn't sell the gun no one would have got shot. Going after the trackers who provide a techology (torrent) that can be used for both legitimate (timeshifting, back up recover etc) and illegitimate (piracy) is the same as going after walmart
mc hammer said it best
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?When there is a murder done with the gun, do they go back to the guy who sold the gun at the store and arrest him? No they don?t. They arrest the person who did it. So in this particular case, somebody is stealing content using the freeway. You can?t go back and sue the construction men,? Hammer said.
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