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Originally Posted by Barefootsies
Thanks for the heads up.
I appreciate it big time. 2Much had been recommended to me earlier this year when looking for chat, and webcam solutions.
I delayed consideration on them based on, what I considered, excessive nickel and dimeing on that back end stuff you mentioned. I prefer to OWN the license or software and have it on my OWN servers, and handle my OWN billing.
Unfortuantely a lot of web cam companies appear to follow this business model of the white label, or front end, and then do the same as the dating sites. They basically collect, hoard the profiles to give them a king sized DB over the years. Crippling your, or handicapping you, from ever leaving.
I have also heard many stories about some of the web cam companies trying to recruit your top selling models for themselves. Something I simply would never agree to. In the end, we put the idea on hold for now and will just develop our own software down the line.
Sorry to hear you had this much grief with 2Much and Mark Prince. Thanks 4 sharing the experience however.
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I'm sorry to hear this.
Really, when you get into a business relationship, you have to read the contracts and terms of service to understand what to expect and how to do things.
I wouldn't begin to try guessing where to get traffic that turns into so much fraud (friendly or not) chargebacks and voids, but the CCBill cap speaks for itself.
There are many things that Mark didn't address in the statements made above - such as:
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Originally Posted by pornsitenewbie
Their system is designed for us to recruit models, and provide traffic, and our models will then be shared with other sites on their network.
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On the 2much system, models won't be shared with other sites unless this is what you the site owner choose. It's optional. You can keep the performers you recruit exclusive if you want, and still use performers from the network or MBase to round out your line-up.
Our customers only provide traffic to themselves, and to the performers from other sites that they choose to use on their site.
Our system, basically, is designed for you to start up without your own models until you recruit your own, at which point you can cut ties with the networked live content.
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Originally Posted by pornsitenewbie
- Once Mark Prince, the owner of LCN found out I am changing domains (this was my damn domain to begin with), he threw a fit, and gave me some song and dance about how I am not allowed to switch the DNS on my own domain, blah blah blah.
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We take a risk offering a sub-account on our master account which naturally entails certain obligations; one of them, quoted above, is not to change your DNS without first advising us. Call it a safe exit strategy. When these terms aren't respected there's steps we have to take to cover our asses, and our relationship with CCBill.
Finally, we aren't a white label or a simple front end. We're a centrally hosted video chat delivery system, billing platform provided but optional, and you ultimately manage your models and money and customers. Using MBase is a choice and an option.
You need someone to manage not just the models though, but pricing, payouts, traffic, site changes, backing-up for upgrades, and so on. Plus, on the front end, you can customize the look of the site entirely, or use a generic template.
Ultimately, whether you get a one-package deal like ours, or research and develop your own, with multiple service providers, you're responsible for your success or failure. Blaming the service provider/s is just copping out.
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