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/cast vote for 'draconian' laws that
-only allow 'fair use' rights to supercede 'copyright holder' rights when the fair-use-user is doing so in a non-abusive, non-profitable and fair manner.
so completely reverse the entire defined definition of copyright law
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You and your kind are the ones trying to reverse the copyright laws as they are written and intended. Copyright holders are given exclusive rights to their works, and the dissemination of those works, except for the fair use entitlements
provided for - but in NO WAY was it intended that anyone could use any copyrighted work in any way that they chose, and in a manner that they personally profited from. I'm all for fair use in the way the law details it - not in the way your fantasy prone mind envisions it.
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-Dictate that digital products are treated with the same laws that hard goods are.
cool so i can sell my digital goods to other people after i am done using them, just like i can with my car
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yes - because when you sell your car you are deprived of it and someone else buys the right to own and use it as they wish. So the (new) laws would cover that you can sell your digital good(s) as long as you are deprived of it (your already installed copy is removed / your pics or vids are deleted from your system...) and that if you are found to still be using it (posessing it) after you sold it then you are legally and financialy responsible for the consequences that may befall you.
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i can rent out my digital goods just like i can with my car
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again, yes. But under the same terms as selling it - If you (rent/lease/assign..) it to someone else then you cannot use it and must remove it from your system.
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i would think you would consider that a step backwards, but cool.
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as described above - it would be a step forward - and grant you your rights to sell/lease/rent/assign
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-clarify that a 'backup' stored in a manner accessible to anyone other than the person who owns the backup - is deemed to be unacceptable in terms of 'fair use'.
wow so sms server will no be illegal since the install point is shared, the cost of corporate backup just went 100 fold, and multi million dollar business like microsoft sms server sales all have to disappear.
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don't be a tool - any sharing of any digital product
by the owner of said products would be perfectly legal - SMS is quite safe - costs of corporate backup will remain exactly as they are - and legal users of the shared (protected) content will not rot in jail.
You constantly make this mistake - if Radiohead (or any band) want to give their stuff away - more power to them. If a porn producer wants to splash their stuff all over the internet for free, that is their choice and right, If you want to share your own creations with the world gratis... then have at it - be free. But if I don't want my stuff given away for free in its entirety in an environment where the 'giver' is making money from my work, or in an environment that impacts my ability to make a living from my own work - then
FUCK THAT
Giving
MY work away is solely
MY choice, and not someone elses. If they want to use a bit of it for commentary, or make a mashup, or make a parody, or use it for purely research or educational purposes - then hell - I'm good with that. Siteripping me and placing it on a public torrent... well, I'm not so good with that.
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-clarify that 'time shifing' stored in a manner accessible to anyone other than the person who owns the time shifted content - is deemed to be unacceptable in terms of 'fair use'.
if you think your backup idea will be coded into law, no point it wasting time explaining why this one will not happen either.
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easily coded into the law - for a backup to qualify under fair use the backup would have to be stored in such a manner that it is only accessible to authorized accessors (corporations are again safe) and that the public is locked out. If you want a backup online - make one - share it to the world - go to jail. Again, If you
OWN full rights to the content (and I mean copyright holders rights - not 'fair use' users rights) and wish to make your 'backup' publically available - go nuts.
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-Lay down rules that ISP's and Hosts will be given the go-ahead and authority to 'disconnect' flagrant abusers, and will themselves be watched for supplying services to flagrant abusers and disconnected themselves if they do not comply.
and that has no possiblity of censoring the internet
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make up a propaganda campaign using all your own original thoughts flaming the government and you are immune from ACTA (and censorship)
copy/paste someone elses campaign and use it for your own without getting permission and/or obtaining the right to, or exerpting their works for discussion/commentary - then the ACTA act shuts you down -
their original work will however be left up and fully uncensored and accessible to the public.
This is all about using OTHER peoples work as your own,for your profit - NONE of this is about 'censorship' of original thought. nor about censorship of the internet.
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i have just shown you how legitimate business (like microsoft, etc) can argue against such a change in the law, how likely do you think it will pass when they start arguing how unreasonable it is.
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Microsoft and all other corporations and all legitimate users will be untouched by this treaty - so don't expect them to stand on your side.
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don't forget the people hit hardest by that kind of changes like google and major telco.
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Google will be completely unaffected, major Telcos will be unaffected. They will enforce disconnections (logical or physical) when required to - just as they are now for cp - their scope of jurisdiction will increase - so a few jobs will be created - good for everyone concerned ('cept for you - and I'm not crying over that)
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hell if the cable companies can run free PSA against the broadcast tax in canada, asking people to right the crtc, how likely do you think it is that major companies are not going to do the same thing if the laws come down the way you are wanting them too.
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Sometimes, by the way you structure your sentences, grammar, spelling, punctuation.... I really don't know what thought you are trying to convey - but then I just chalk it up to the blessings in my life and be thankful
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