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Originally Posted by pornsitenewbie
No, what I am saying is that once Mark had my money, and the money of all his other customers whom I've yet to even see, he could care less about doing anything but making his own site better. He did absolutely nothing to try to improve his model network by getting more models online during the time I was there, and he actually made the video product much worse. The video and color quality is nowhere near what they used to be, fine print or not. Look at how ugly and amateur that chat client looks, Will? Have you ever seen anything that bad on any other cam site? It looks like it's still in beta testing if not alpha. I failed because I was lied to and stuck with a system that only benefitted it's owner, noone else! Especially for the amount of money I paid. Ever hear of bait and switch, Will? I would say more than 60% of my business wasn't from my own site, it was from recruiting models for Mark's network which I believed had actual sites besides his. Remember, these were all factors I was considering before signing up, so chargebacks of $400 had absolutely nothing to do with me wanting to leave. As for traffic, I had more traffic than Mark, just less regular customers who wouldn't stay once they saw my empty site. Will, ask yourself this question as a webcam consultant of 10+ years, knowing what you learned here about LCN, would you recommend them to anyone? Come on, please be honest...
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I don't agree with the vast majority of what you posted here and I can tell you this much if you consulted with me prior to getting set up with 2much you very likely wouldn't be in the situation you are now. While I couldn't help with chargebacks much as that is a result of where ever you are getting your traffic from and how the billing companies (ccbill in this case) handle fraud, I could have helped you in a lot of other ways. I would have made sure you were aware of how many models they have on your network, exactly how their system works. I still don't think you understand 1/2 of how it works because you are wrong in a lot of the things you are trying to argue here. Obviously you didn't get it or never bothered to, I would have made sure you got it, the risks, etc...
A white label is definetly the best option for you, but can't compare a white label vs a live cam software solution. apples and oranges.
I would likely use Mark's software if I had more control over the programming or if I was guaranteed to have the source code if they stopped supporting it. I wouldn't recommend using it if you were relying on them for chathost, I also personally would get my own merchant account. The only thing I would want to rely on someone else for is the software, which if I had access to the code there would be no riskes involved.
I don't think Mark did anything wrong here from everything I have read. I would recommend someone using his system if they don't want to spend big bucks creating their own live cam solution, if they had their own chathosts, and with their own merchant account. All things his solution allows you to do. The chathost on LCN's network should be a suppliment, or bonus in addition to the ones that you would bring on board. If you can't get chathosts then there is no point paying for software, just do a white label.
I like the concept of sharing chathosts, which can work both ways for you. If you don't have traffic but you have chathost you can still make money in his system. If you don't have chathost but you have traffic you can still make money in his system. The concept is great as you need both traffic and chathost at the same time to launch a site, something that is very hard to do so his network gives you a little extra help than if you were on your own. But if you don't have your own chathost you are basically an affiliate that paid a decent amount of money for software, when you could have just got a white label with another company.