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Old 11-27-2009, 01:26 PM  
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies View Post
You apparently have never run a pay site from your comments.

I do not mean that to slam you by any means, but I am simply saying that a good chunk, not all, members enjoy paying for something that is a VALUE to them. Just like they support their local restaurants, causes, or favorite hang outs. I, and many of my members, do not mind paying for something that is a value to us, and fulfills a need. Especially the more convenience it is the better.

I do not use torrents, and the rest of that shit. Never have. Why? Because they appear to be too much of a hassle for me when I can just pay the $.099 for the song and be done with it from a simply interface. Piece of mind knowing that it is legal, and will work with my iPod, and that it is backed up. All of that is a VALUE to me.

I will give you another example. I hear this one all the time from webmasters.

Why would ANYONE pay for a celebrity site when the content is available for FREE all over the web? Most adult/celebrity pay sites have the exact same content as the next, and the content they are just pulling from the web.

The answer. Convenience.

One site, one price, updating daily, in one place without the pop ups, spyware, adware, and the rest. They do not HAVE TO go through endless searches trying to find some picture that hits the spot. They do not need to SPEND THE TIME trying to track down what they want. It is already there. If they want something in particular, they email the webmaster and then THEY go track it down.

Again, this is a VALUE to people they are willing to pay for.

People are busy. Online and off. They are lazy and apathetic and will pay for a convenience. The vast majority of customers do not think like webmasters. The over 18 crowd with a few bucks to their name are not going to spend 1-2 hours tracking down shit for free. It is easier to just pay for it.

Not all customers are the same, nor think the same. There are some, who are never ever going to pay for anything and think everything should be free. They take pride in not paying, and are typically the same shitheads you are DMCA'g as they post your shit on tubes and forums. They are never going to pay, just like some will never vote. Stop wasting your time and energy on them.

You need to focus on the actual BUYING customers out there. You need to provide a VALUE and a CONVENIENCE to them. If the customers are preferring tubes as their delivery method because it is convenient, then your pay sites should be TUBE pay sites. You should be using the technology and preferred delivery method to your advantage. Not fighting it. In the end, you will never win.

The "good ole days" are gone. Get over it.
Actually I have run a paysite, several... And still do.

So are your saying we should let torrents pass around content that we paid for? If thats the case forget the porn you can just send me the cash you would have paid the producer. I like cash much more than porn!

As for tubes they have their place, but not with my content plastered all over them while they reap the benefits of my hard work. The paid tube model has merits, if thats the preferred method of distribution , I don't disagree, go with it, just do it legally and without my content(yea I have seen that too)

If there wasn't free full length stuff out there, there would be value in even the shittiest pay site, giving away everything for free like some of these sites do devalues(is that even a word?) my sites. Plus they would be forced to buy or go without, turning a decent percentage of the cheap bastards into buying customers.

Yes, the good ole days are gone, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be trying to preserve what future we have left.
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