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Old 11-29-2009, 09:34 PM  
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You don't have to take a hair dryer anywhere. You just manipulate the data and control the information. That's it. Yes this is about control and profiting from everything fucking thing you do. It's more about CONTROL than it is money. Well you can also toss in that every single one of these people have at least once written or said in their own words that they want reduce the Worlds population. They are the people who need fucking help because they are genocidal control freaks.
You talk about profit and control. Interesting.

Have you ever heard of the oil industry? It's a fairly big and rather powerful industry, with the top 100 oil companies worldwide having yearly revenues that combined exceed 4 trillion dollars - the industry's revenues actually exceed the entire GDP of China.

As it happens, a number of oil companies have been funding the institutes that have been working to cast doubt on global warming.

Chief among those oil companies is ExxonMobil, which has nearly half a trillion in yearly revenue - which would make it the world's 24th largest economy had it been a country instead of a company. Of course, since it only has around 80,000 employees, if it were a country it would have the highest GDP per capita in the world by far.

Now, let's take a quick look at the George C. Marshall Institute, one of the institutes responsible for many of the publications disputing the existence of global warming.

It was founded by Frederick Seitz, a scientist who spent his earlier years doing research on health - for the tobacco industry. It got many of its funds from ExxonMobil and other oil companies. Its current director is William O'Keefe, a former executive at the American Petroleum Institute. Former executive director Matthew B. Crawford left the institute, claiming it distorted facts and science to reflect the views of the oil industry.

Or look at the Heartland Institute, another one of those independent foundations. Largely funded by the oil industry and the tobacco industry, it disputes claims about global warming and about the harmful effects of smoking. Just a coincidence, of course.

Or the Discovery Institute, which doesn't believe in global warming or evolution. Its vice-president happens to be a former ARCO guy. On evolution, its campaign slogan used to be "Teach the controversy". Does that sound familiar?

That might be because in the past, it was used by the tobacco industry:

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As a memo from the tobacco company Brown and Williamson noted, "Doubt is our product since it is the best means of competing with the 'body of fact' that exists in the mind of the general public. It is also the means of establishing a controversy."
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It should sound vaguely familiar for another reason, too. That reason being that it has also been used by the oil industry in the global warming debate.

One would think that someone looking for conspiracies might at least want to take a look at one of the most powerful industries in the world. An industry that, as it happens, has obvious stakes in the matter.

Then again, the same could be said for the coal industry, the car industry, the airplane industry, the shipping industry, the steel industry - we should be nearing a quarter of the world's total GDP by now.

But let's play a game! Spot the companies that have nothing to lose from restrictions on carbon emissions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ies_by_revenue

Now, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but if I wanted to go looking for a conspiracy, I'm pretty sure looking at that list would be more productive than looking at Al Gore - who, incidentally, lost an election against George W. Bush under rather shady circumstances. And Dubya, as we all know, was an oil guy - just like quite a few people in his administration.

But hey, it's not like Dubya would ever hide evidence of global warming. Well, not more than once, anyway. Eh... let's move on to another subject.

Of course, no matter how much fun conspiracy theories might be, they're not actually true. The rich and powerful do not need conspiracies to stay rich and powerful. Their connections and money are more than enough for them to keep their positions.

Sure, companies and governments might try to protect their interests at times by trying to influence research and the media, but in the end the big things just can't be kept under wraps no matter what they do.

With global warming, we'll find out the exact details of what's going on soon enough. Not because conspiracies will be revealed, but because more data will come in and the research will settle.
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