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Originally Posted by Godsmack
Lemme just say he owes me enough to call him a scammer..
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well i dont know what type of deal you where into it, but here my :2c:
if it was a biz partnership its quite logic that every biz bears risk, from total failure to total success thats why u usuall get plenty of money out of it when it succeeds, on the other hand when it fails well money lost. but thats like that freakin everyhwhere, if could get back any money i invested in possible business i could retire immediately, but no pain no gain.
on the other hand i can fully understand those sitebuilding guys which invested money and most of that was for those folks very hard earned or saved, and did get basically nothing back, well i was one of those folks as well,
i totally agree that there is some pattern i see with all the stuff i recently heard, read about micky, the complaints.com article from stodan, what crockett said, sounds pretty similar to me follows somewhat along the same pattern.
nevertheless i got a funny question: in my home country we have a saying, freely translated it would prolly mean, you canīt get something out of someone which dont have a thing, so i think it probably a good public statement to give a public warning about people whith those patterns,
Nevertheless i really doubt he has such a beautiful life there in curacao, from what i know, cause he needed to pay off some of his debt he needed to sell xlxx.com and believe me he took the worst possible time to sell a site ever cause the economic downturn had already started and since i know the rough pricing range which xlxx was sold, due some of my partners wanted to buy her as well that time, believe me when i say the price was insanely cheap nothing where you actually could retire with.
so i have the slight impression some of you guys think that he lives in paradise and has the life everbody is dreaming about, - seriously i highly doubt that, thats prolly what most of us are thinking when we hear someone is living in the carribean, yeah sounds like paradise payed from our money. No we dont sound like jealous jerks. LOL
in those econmic times we need every penny way more than we used to need them 2 years ago, at least that applies for me. so sure we are often looking around where some of our money is still stuck, and trying to get it back asap. i ll truly understand that, since its the same for me, and without saying numbers i am pretty close to the amount you invested vince.
so did he apolgied for it?
YES - but who the fuck needs a apology i want my investments back since the delivered project is definatley not worth what i payed for
so did he at least tried to make up for it / pay it back?
YES - its small amounts here and there, some work, would take ages till he payed off only me i think LOL and with all you other guys he prolly needs a few lifetimes for it
what now?
still my :2c: for biz partnerships and similar i would say hey thats just the normal risk you have everywhere, be a man and admit as you already did your greed drove you into this, and yes you should have listened to your wife (and isnt it easy to say later i have told you so, i am sure she did on lots of other things which succeeded, if not? - lesson learned do what your wife says in future, and that lesson did only cost you 25K, but blame yourself)
imo, if micky did fucked us all up by purpose which some here might believe he will pay a 100 times what he did to others, remeber the carma is a bitch thingie! i believe micky is aware of that, so i really canīt look inside his brain and tell you what heīs really thinking so i can only speak for myself, my situation
i lost XX.XXX amount of money during the sitebuilding cause of my way of thinking of it, i lost a focus cause i was listening to other people which where telling me really ugly shit about micky after a few weeks after i payed the money upfront. the only one i can blame is me. no one else.
i just would tend to think of if i ll give him time and peace of mine, or a 2nd chance he then might have the chance to pay his debt to us off - in this lifetime. as i already mentioned it, there are only 2 options
1) heīs really good in telling us believable stories on his situation, and in real heīs enjoying life at its best, for our money and he just keeps lying about it
then ---> Carma is a Bitch, and none of us would be in his skin, maybe not now but time will come very very soon
or
2) really deep shit happend to him, heīs aware thats all his fault, he canīt blame others for it, (same as we canīt blame him LOL) he have to get on his feet again, to make a reasonable living for him and his family and as soon he got his basics covered he can starting paying us off