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Originally Posted by MaDalton
one problem we all seem to have is always looking first what others do wrong. as long as democracy exists it's the majority who makes the rules. thats why you need to start in your own place first. go out and help that churches in Turkey can be build and people do not get shot by extremists just because they gave away bibles. and convince your people to do the same. then people in Switzerland have no reason to be afraid of turkish muslims and will also get much more relaxed.
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You are talking like Every place is perfect but, people in Turkiye are searching for Christians to Random shot.
this is untrue, afew events like that happened here, but those were something rare and i would look for something else instead of extremists behind these sad event.
we Muslims, Christians Jews lived together for many centuries without any matter, someone just trying to make it up otherwise.
Here in our University there are so many people from different cultures and religions, i never saw anybody discriminated Christians, thats mostly media hype, nothing more.
You can also check these out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...ches_in_Turkey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...gues_in_Turkey
My place is not the best maybe but, clean enough for the religion tolerance, at least nobody makes a referendum to unplug church bells.
if afew douches does makes a bad example, it doesn't mean they can picture the whole community and can wipe out this tolerance thing which comes from so many centuries ago.
[QUOTE=MaDalton;16605195you are somewhat right - if they are born here it's somehow also their country. but with no proper language skills and refusing to accept laws and culture I cannot see it that way.
Those who did adapt: for sure, no problem with them. I also have turkish and kurdish friends who live and talk like germans - but of course still are muslims. but in those families also the daughters are treated as human beings - including the right to have boyfriends, wear what they want and do whatever they like. because everything else i consider unacceptable in a modern western society[/QUOTE]
i already told i agree with You on that, they need to adapt, but i don't think they have to give their own values up, it should be respected as how You respect Aimish, Cathlics or Mormons as long as they don't respect others.
i would acctually reply that part within details, but i m too lazy to do it right now :2cents::