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Originally Posted by NetHorse
Well livereviews might have an affiliate link, but after giving a shitty review who is really going to join that site? If the program owner contacts them and says your method of advertising violates our TOS, it's no big loss for livereviews. Like I said they can just recommend a similar site on the review page.
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Clearly you don't have a clue about the review business... the worst reviews, point out fraud, have comments that are filled with reports that the consumer was had, and people still join.
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Originally Posted by NetHorse
And seriously, what are the odds of that? A brand new credit card being banged coincidentally after signing up for a porn site?
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1000's of times higher than a paysite/program banging out cards. I have had a new cc have fraud on it before I ever used it, twice. Visa/MC Cancel millions of cards a year that get stolen from work PC's at the banks and crap....
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Originally Posted by NetHorse
If I owned livereviews I would say bring it on.  I commend them for standing up against piece of shit program owners that are destroying this business. They are not writing derogatory comments, they aren't out to harm a brand or image, they are simply posting honest reviews of what to expect after joining a paysite. |
Ok? I know they will just be posting a review.. it's the other stuff were talking about.
You act as if this is the first review site to give honest reviews or tell what the surfer is buying.
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Originally Posted by NetHorse
A.) Pre-checked Cross sales.
B.) Spam
C.) Fraud
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1) Pre-checks Cross Sales aren't fraud... VISA/MC allow them because they aren't fraud. It's "your opinion" that they are otherwise. No stats, no chargebacks, refunds, or complaints backup your "theory."
2) ANY marketing email with an opt-out and header space for porn included - is 100% legal and not fraud at any level. Even if I sent 1000 emails, cancel emails, follow ups, offers, discounts... NONE of that is spam.
3) Neither of the above is any type of fraud. Nothing wrong with showing fraud, as I have already stated several times.
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Originally Posted by NetHorse
Let the piece of shit program owners sue for being called out on their shady practices then. Odds are they won't though. If they are indeed spamming and banging cards it could open up an investigation.
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The list of programs doing this over the years is, well... small. The number of programs that have been defrauded by the consumer, affiliates and others... is damn near 100%.
Back to reality... were review sites already change the reviews based on what the program says. You're trying to argue what is already fact.