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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
this is true- yet people still buy your sites and they get content stolen all the time
people still pay for dating sites yet can get it for free on POF
people still buy tons of PUA sites every day yet they can get most on google for free
on not big on creative billing scams - i like clean sites for buying. might not be the most profitable thing, but i can sleep at night....to each their own. I'm going to be adding cascading and more billing options very soon. Very happy with CCbill in primary...
planning on adding geo-ip ads very soon - can't do everything at once....
have you EVER known me to lie about sales? I usually keep pretty quiet about it overall to be honest....
as for design, I've made millions with crappy designs before.... testing will tell. i like it...
anyway -thank you for the input - I will be using some of it....
i don't listen to everything but i DO listen and take what i think is useful for me....
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Indeed there's a lot to be argued both ways. Some would like us to believe porn users enjoy ppm models, others will argue free lifetime models, but the popularity of tube sites confirm "flappable free is king".
Personally I believe the *majority* of "porn subscribers" are either (1) not aware of the charges, (2) don't plan to let it rebill, or (3) drunk/drugged/etc during POS in which case refer back to #1. Yes there are "fans" who rebill on solo sites or a bangbros all-you-can-eat type network but even then they'll graduate to stolen passwords/tubes/torrents sooner than later.
Ten years ago shit was different, a subscription model worked. Now surfers are too educated to fall for simple "get in line here to pay" type sites. They want everything for free. The reason why dating sites work (work meaning affiliates make money) is because they get the user this close <----> to meeting a "real" girl (a real girl meaning "smart" auto-responders and/or Philippine chatters looking for gullible john's) and so then the guy whips out his cc to play. Adult dating sites have no real women looking for sex (if we take percentages into play). It's all a fake sell. Forget about sleeping at night buddy, if you've made any $$ from dating sites you've facilitated the scam. POF is "popular" but so are the W4M sections of craigslist (see auto-responders & Philippine chatters referenced above). Eharmony et al drop millions on TV ads so the preppy bitches who missed their man-finding opportunities while whoring in their 20's talk about it with their mid-age-I-want-a-baby friends while sipping on some trendy java drink. Otherwise, it's all bullshit.
If anything what has been confirmed from your release is there's some confusion as to what is being offered/sold. A few 'back to the drawing board sessions' can easily clear this up as some people have already posted some helpful ideas (intro video, cleaner design, etc.). The good thing is you personally have TONS of traffic to throw at it for testing, testing, and more testing.
If I were you (and most likely something I know you *will* do) is wait to hear from all sides. You'll have your regular tools hate from their mom's kitchen ... fuck them. Then you'll have real players throw u tips that may spark something you hadn't thought of ... I'd focus on "free registrations" to see if you actually get someone to post a simple email (which in the end is worth something itself) and then work on tweaking it to get them to pull out their cc. If they don't drop an email, they'll never drop financials.
Like I said before you've been busy and the framework is there ... clean it up and you'll have a good idea if it'll work or not as our opinions don't mean shit if you're laughing all the way to the bank. I'll keep an eye out for updates, it's always good to hear a down-n-out story turn into a success. Good luck bud and I'm sure you'll succeed one way or another
