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Old 12-16-2009, 11:41 PM  
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Originally Posted by FabianC View Post
Indeed there's a lot to be argued both ways. Some would like us to believe porn users enjoy ppm models, others will argue free lifetime models, but the popularity of tube sites confirm "flappable free is king".

Personally I believe the *majority* of "porn subscribers" are either (1) not aware of the charges, (2) don't plan to let it rebill, or (3) drunk/drugged/etc during POS in which case refer back to #1. Yes there are "fans" who rebill on solo sites or a bangbros all-you-can-eat type network but even then they'll graduate to stolen passwords/tubes/torrents sooner than later.

Ten years ago shit was different, a subscription model worked. Now surfers are too educated to fall for simple "get in line here to pay" type sites. They want everything for free. The reason why dating sites work (work meaning affiliates make money) is because they get the user this close <----> to meeting a "real" girl (a real girl meaning "smart" auto-responders and/or Philippine chatters looking for gullible john's) and so then the guy whips out his cc to play. Adult dating sites have no real women looking for sex (if we take percentages into play). It's all a fake sell. Forget about sleeping at night buddy, if you've made any $$ from dating sites you've facilitated the scam. POF is "popular" but so are the W4M sections of craigslist (see auto-responders & Philippine chatters referenced above). Eharmony et al drop millions on TV ads so the preppy bitches who missed their man-finding opportunities while whoring in their 20's talk about it with their mid-age-I-want-a-baby friends while sipping on some trendy java drink. Otherwise, it's all bullshit.

If anything what has been confirmed from your release is there's some confusion as to what is being offered/sold. A few 'back to the drawing board sessions' can easily clear this up as some people have already posted some helpful ideas (intro video, cleaner design, etc.). The good thing is you personally have TONS of traffic to throw at it for testing, testing, and more testing.

If I were you (and most likely something I know you *will* do) is wait to hear from all sides. You'll have your regular tools hate from their mom's kitchen ... fuck them. Then you'll have real players throw u tips that may spark something you hadn't thought of ... I'd focus on "free registrations" to see if you actually get someone to post a simple email (which in the end is worth something itself) and then work on tweaking it to get them to pull out their cc. If they don't drop an email, they'll never drop financials.

Like I said before you've been busy and the framework is there ... clean it up and you'll have a good idea if it'll work or not as our opinions don't mean shit if you're laughing all the way to the bank. I'll keep an eye out for updates, it's always good to hear a down-n-out story turn into a success. Good luck bud and I'm sure you'll succeed one way or another
i gota say - i feel sorry for you on that attitude for dating sites. I've been laid more times from adult friend finder than I can count. yes i'm a slut. I'm an ugly fat bastard and I've fucked some pretty hot women from there. it's not a scam and my experiences prove it. some dating sites are a scam - no doubt- AFF isn't and I never lost ANY sleep thinking it ever was a scam promoting them.


I do plan on collecting emails for a legit newsletter soon though, good idea and I'm on that page totally.
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