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Originally Posted by Meeper
I can ask you the same question regarding having any type of respect for someone who is putting their life on the line for YOU and your country. If it wasn't for them fighting and serving in the armed forces then it would be YOU or I being drafted (well maybe not you because you live in Canada, which makes it even more clear to me your simply just trolling). You are basing your entire argument on the fact that the average soldier has murderous intentions, which is total bullshit. He is simply doing his duty. The morality of his actions depend on the intention of the leaders who have sent him to war. That being said, there are obviously soldiers who may have murderous intentions and use the cover of warfare to carry them out, but to say that's the majority is ridiculous.
I'm sure you'll rebuttal with some witty remark such as:"well soldiers are all morons who aren't educated and all believe in the war they are fighting", but I'm pretty sure there's been sufficient proof in this thread to counter that claim. Obviously you are here to stir emotions (same as the reason this video was initially posted) and I wont be feeding the fire any more than I already have. Ive said my piece and don't have much else to say that hasn't already been posted here already.
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I understand what you mean by he's doing his duty, but you can't stop questioning it at that. What is his 'duty' exactly? To serve his government without question?
I'll be the first to say that I'd hate to be a country that starts an official war with the US where people in the US are actually threatened, because I know that you crazy fucks will step up and when it really makes sense and you're fighting for a purpose I'm sure there would be no force more ferocious than the US.
After all, humans are all humans, the guys in Iraq and Afghanistan holding their own with shoddy home made weapons are human just like everyone else on Earth but what makes them so relatively tough is that they're defending their beliefs (even if the beliefs they're defending to us seem wrong) and not just putting their lives at risk for no reason.
If something becomes a real threat to the US I'm sure we'll see a whole different picture but the way things are right now is soldiers are going in and are either educated people who know that the war is senseless and therefore are idiots for volunteering to go kill people for no reason or they're people with no other choice in life who are being misled into thinking it's the right thing to do.
8 years after 9/11 all the two wars did is lead to casualties on both sides, so many civilians dead that the number dwarfs 9/11 and you have pretty much the same situation, a weapons dealer turned politician who is openly corrupt (Hamid Karzai) is the head of Afghanistan and after capturing Saddam Hussein you guys turned him over to Muqtada Al Sadr's guys to kill him, and those guys are known terrorists that have close ties to the current Iraq government. Nothing changed. And the worst part of it all is that people over there are worse off now than they were before because instead of letting diplomacy run its course the US voted to start a war, without the ok of the UN, and everyone voted to support the war even though they knew it was wrong and now everyone 'supports the troops' even though they know they're supporting an army that is occupying 2 countries that they have no business occupying that very obviously don't want them there.
That's the 'duty' of a US soldier, is to carry out that kind of stuff? What a shame