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Old 12-18-2009, 02:47 AM  
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You're right, I don't run a review site, do you? Or is this business as usual, you know everything when you smoke a bowl.
Yeah, who hasn't had a review site by now? I can sell you a great review script if you want.

Anyway... what makes you think I smoke? You have no idea who I am or what I do, but you pretend that you know me?



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A brand new credit card that's only been used to buy ONE membership online?
Just like new issued cards get banged... and just like 99.9% of paysites don't bang cards, it's the xsale partners doing it, unknown to the site owner. So if you really wanted to help the surfer out, you would join every upsell they have.


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Is there another review site that has screencaps of the email account after canceling a membership? Is there another review site that uses a brand new credit card each time they join a site?
Those features don't make the review honest...they already have a nasty site reviewed, we can see pointing that out doesn't mean anything.


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Where the fuck did I say prechecked cross sales were fraud? I said prechecked cross sales, SPAM and fraud, meaning those are three shady factors livereviews has addressed which I feel are important. Way to quote a part of my post and take it way out of context.
oh, sorry the word shady for the word fraud, big deal... they aren't shady unless they're under the button.

A paysite owner has limits to work within, even more so on 3rd party processors. When nobody complains, when cb's/refunds are under control. 2 pre-checked xsales, isn't shady, it isn't bad, it isn't fraud... it's simply business.



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Well it better be in your terms of service that you will sell user's email addresses or send them periodic emails. Either way, letting me know that my email address will get bombarded with spam is information I'd love to be informed of if I was your average user. Once again, good job LiveReviews, suck a dick shady program owners.
I don't sell emails, I haven't heard of someone doing that in years. I don't need to put anything in my terms about emails either, it's not illegal to email/contact people, it's not illegal to send them endless offers as long as the email follows the rules.

Chances are far far far greater that if a member is getting spam from a program; then the software, the host or the processor has a leak.

All of which, can and have been hacked before.



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Read that back to yourself and then slap yourself twice in front of a mirror. Jesus.
Why? Because it's true, they will make the changes, take down reviews, etc when requested.



You guys act as if I'm attacking them...when I'm not. I have made it very clear, that pointing out actual fraud/bad shit is perfectly fine. However, I feel that pointing out what is 'allowed' and not illegal, is.... bullshit.
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