Dude, I can so relate to this. I have the same kinds of discussions with them but they simply cannot or will not use logic and reason. I use that argument when the discussion gets around to abortion. They are always saying how God is against abortion, but when you see him murdering unborn children in their mothers' wombs because the moms didn't worship him, you almost have to believe that he is FAVOR abortion. He is worse than any abortion doctor because abortion doctors only operate with the consent of the woman. YHWH just fries them in the womb.
YHWH is the biggest genocidal tantrum throwing monster the world has ever known, in fiction and reality. He is worse than Stalin, Hitler, AND Satan COMBINED. Compared to YHWH, Satan is a fucking choir boy. But the faithful will never see him that way. They use his wrath to justify their own intolerance.
Dawkins is the antichrist to most evangelicals. It's funny because I use to consider him evil but now he is one of my heros. I guess I can understand Dawkins' anger. They are on a mission to destroy the theory of evolution, a theory which no reasonable person can deny, and destroy the reputation of scientists worldwide. I have been monitoring a number of right wing message forums and they have been going on and on about what they call climate-gate, which they take to be part of a massive conspiracy to deceive people that includes evolution. They think evolution is a theory for which the evidence has been made up. Scientists are soldiers of the NWO and the Illuminati and work for the Anti-Christ and the devil. How can you argue with people who have deluded themselves THIS MUCH? What RETARDS.
On the one hand, they have no problem believing that Jesus could walk on water and rise from the dead, but they think evolution is too far fetched to swallow. They are a bunch iof fucking morons.
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Originally Posted by Darkland
Same here for over 20 years. That is an interesting site. You should check out "The God Delusion" by Dawkins if you haven't already.
I had a debate once about the war in heaven and the fall of the angels. Basically it went like this. List all the horrible things Lucifer did in the bible. They couldn't come up with anything other than tricking Adam and Eve into eating from the tree of knowledge. Now... List all the horrible things God did in the bible. They said there is none. I started pointing out all the mass murder, genocides, approval of incest or raping, etc. Once we had the tally, of which the one side was impossible to calculate immediately, I said: Do you think the right side one? Is that the leader you want to bow down to? I mean we have had dictators in the past that were labeled evil throughout history for doing maybe 1/1000th of the things done by your God? Why are they evil and not revered?
Something to think about.
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