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i have known the CCBill guys for some time and the direction this thread is going is that it seems that avstgp thinks that the guys at ccbill are intentionally billing users for access, inserting a u/ps in the system for them, and not crediting them.
if that was the case, remember it would be very easy to get caught. if a member has any questions about the site, they would email the site owner, who would notice they could not find a subscription and complain on the boards, others would confirm it and ccbill would lose most of their business just like that
so just out of self-preservation, it makes sense to me that this is an honest mistake, i cant see it any other way. their morals aside, why risk losing tens of millions in order to gain a few (highly risky) dollars?
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