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SwirlsGirl · 01-09-2010, 02:30 PM

lets see what we have discovered in the past few days...

multiple webmasters observing inconsistent and way off join form submission percentages, one day very high percentages in the 45%-50% the next day drops to 1%,4%,0% with steady traffic, in some instances backup processors have sudden flurry of sales when ccbill submissions drop to virtually nothing

multiple webmasters have complained about recent payouts being 70% short

One webmaster has found a 200 member discrepancy(who knows I figure about a $5,000 discrepancy) between his member data base and what ccbill has paid him on.

Not to mention seeing passwords added to his database by ccbill from other websites that are not even his!!! He even posted his log file for all of us to view.

another usa webmaster tried to sign up to his site with a good card with funds on it, and he was declined within the past week!

Multiple webmasters getting emails from customers about login and pass not working, then when we try the login and pass it works fine for us.

Multiple webmasters have chimed in and cosigned about observing the same exact weird activity

Multiple webmasters were thinking about starting a thread but did not want to be victims of backlash by naive webmasters who come in and attack them for raising concerns

Who knows what it all means, at the very least something doesn't add up. No one wants to think the worst but when you get the same cyber/verbal assurances from ccbill that everything is fine, while more webmasters are trying to get real answers about real concerns...

and the best you get from ccbill is "send me your account# and we will take a look at your account we are not aware of any problems"

I remember at the beginning of 2009 I experienced record declines, and denials, I mean like quadruple what I would normally see during the first month of the year, and after starting a thread about it, and forking over my account # to the ccbill guys....

I was in fact told that my accounts fraud scrubbing was set a little high for some reason... the reason was never disclosed but I was told that adjustments had been made and I should see the decline rate go down.

Not sure what "adjustments" were made but the declines went back down to a "normal" rate.

I didn't think much of it... then but in retrospect, ecspecially as of the recent board activity... it tells me that regardless of what they tell you about scrubbing...

someone or something(software) has the ability to go into a clients account without notice or approval and adjust fraud scrubbing settings.

So logically that brings into mind a bunch of other questions like, who decides what accounts get higher scrubbing, How do we know that all client accounts are scrubbed equally,fairly,etc.

I don't know what it all means, but there is enough information as of late to conclude that there are more questions than there are answers about recent ccbill topics.

01-09-2010, 02:30 PM
SwirlsGirl So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: between east coast and vegas Posts: 2,067	lets see what we have discovered in the past few days... multiple webmasters observing inconsistent and way off join form submission percentages, one day very high percentages in the 45%-50% the next day drops to 1%,4%,0% with steady traffic, in some instances backup processors have sudden flurry of sales when ccbill submissions drop to virtually nothing multiple webmasters have complained about recent payouts being 70% short One webmaster has found a 200 member discrepancy(who knows I figure about a $5,000 discrepancy) between his member data base and what ccbill has paid him on. Not to mention seeing passwords added to his database by ccbill from other websites that are not even his!!! He even posted his log file for all of us to view. another usa webmaster tried to sign up to his site with a good card with funds on it, and he was declined within the past week! Multiple webmasters getting emails from customers about login and pass not working, then when we try the login and pass it works fine for us. Multiple webmasters have chimed in and cosigned about observing the same exact weird activity Multiple webmasters were thinking about starting a thread but did not want to be victims of backlash by naive webmasters who come in and attack them for raising concerns Who knows what it all means, at the very least something doesn't add up. No one wants to think the worst but when you get the same cyber/verbal assurances from ccbill that everything is fine, while more webmasters are trying to get real answers about real concerns... and the best you get from ccbill is "send me your account# and we will take a look at your account we are not aware of any problems" I remember at the beginning of 2009 I experienced record declines, and denials, I mean like quadruple what I would normally see during the first month of the year, and after starting a thread about it, and forking over my account # to the ccbill guys.... I was in fact told that my accounts fraud scrubbing was set a little high for some reason... the reason was never disclosed but I was told that adjustments had been made and I should see the decline rate go down. Not sure what "adjustments" were made but the declines went back down to a "normal" rate. I didn't think much of it... then but in retrospect, ecspecially as of the recent board activity... it tells me that regardless of what they tell you about scrubbing... someone or something(software) has the ability to go into a clients account without notice or approval and adjust fraud scrubbing settings. So logically that brings into mind a bunch of other questions like, who decides what accounts get higher scrubbing, How do we know that all client accounts are scrubbed equally,fairly,etc. I don't know what it all means, but there is enough information as of late to conclude that there are more questions than there are answers about recent ccbill topics.