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I have so many gems on ICQ... i don't even know where to start.
As i started talking to him, one of his guys that does the actual work, manages sites etc contacts me. The guy is contacting me to warn me about Julius and that he's fucked over everyone he's came in contact with. The guy starts telling me all these stories and it was also starting to jive with things i was starting to suspect.
Long story short, the guy just makes deals with people, tries to get the last few people he knows to work for free while promising a payoff in the end and he fucks everyone over.
So through all my dealings with him, i'm talking to the other guy (the guy who's been working for free for him hoping for that payoff in the end as he's being strung along) while i'm talking to him. And... we are comparing notes about what he's saying. I'm calling Julius a stupid thieving cunt on ICQ and he's telling the other guy at the exact same moment "things are going great, we're moving forward, i'm going to wire you money" etc etc etc just to get him to keep working.
So i'm looking at all this thinking "wow... this is fucked. He took my money and spent it and he's lying to everyone about everything and i still need to get the work done that I paid for"
I agreed with his own guy that i would pay him to do the work, on the condition that he also complete unfinished work. He agreed. I was happy, he was happy and we're still working together.
Because Julius is too deluded and retarded to get that i talk to his guy (although he suspected it for a bit), we keep finding out out that people that have done biz with him in the past, and even gotten severely burned are still giving him a second chance.. and doing it, while we watch him rob people. he keeps sending this guy ICQ's and e-mails about work that needs to be done and the guy responds with "Fuck you, i want the money you owe me" - Then Julius tells other people "yeah, i'm still waiting on {uses his real name} to do XYZ" - But Julius is doing this shit knowing that its not going to happen. Its all a ruse to steal money and pass the buck.
If anyone that knows this guy doubts that he's thoroughly out of his mind, i'll leave you with this snippet of an ICQ conversation after I meet him in Orlando, for the first time, to discuss business.
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[up to this point is 100 retarded excuses for why he can't show finished work he's been claiming is done - i started getting more than a little annoyed and its become clear he can't even come close to delivering what was promised/paid for]
(keep in mind , this is at 5 star golf resort)
Mark (11/19/2009 9:38 AM):
and lets be honest here. i am talking to a guy who wanted to meet in person for business.. who was totally shitfaced in less than 2 hrs... who was calling the security guard n|gger... who was continually waving a knife around (your folding knife)... who freaked the wait staff out at the restaurant enough that they wouldn't give you a steak knife.. who later pulled a knife out and held it behind his back as security guards simply walked up to their golf carts to drive somewhere... and who finished the night off by trying to break into my room at 3am... which, had you made it through the doors/windows would have been the last mistake of your life.
Mark (11/19/2009 9:38 AM):
so... i'm not going to be conned or pay when i don't see results. i want to see results. period.
Mark (11/19/2009 9:38 AM):
i'm not your meal ticket.
Julius (11/19/2009 9:39 AM):
no your right
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