Originally Posted by MetaMan

this is not true at all. you can be nice but then you HAVE to go for the kiss at the end of the night. YOU MUST. or you will be in the friend zone if you are really a nice guy.

even if she turns it down (which honestly never happens if you go in for it with confidence) dont take it personally. smile and add a comment in like "i dont mind a lil bit of a challenge" and follow it with a smirk.

most girls have dated a psycho and just want to find out if you are one or not. they do this by testing how you react to certain situations.

when you are out with her just be natural. pretend you are talking to a friend. dont be afraid to talk about the same kind of shit you do with your buddies. trust me women are just as if not more dirty then us. they want a guy who is open and easy to talk to.

it is when you start over thinking the situation that you are failed. women want a guy with confidence. women want to have FUN. if you can make a chick laugh + show her fun + get the kiss at the end of the night you are so in it is not even funny.

you have to remember alot dudes are douche bags and try to approach situation with a game. i never found a need for that because i have personality and like to have fun myself. if they see you having fun they will follow right along with you.