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Originally Posted by kane
She did eventually get coverage, but the only reason she got it was because she was found to be disabled by a panel of doctors. Had she not been found to be disabled she wouldn't have gotten it. My point of the post is that you kind of made it out like anyone who is poor can get on medicaid, that isn't the case. there are a lot of poor people who will not qualify for medicaid simply because they are also not very ill while being poor and if they do qualify there is good chance that some or all of any income they do have will be taken by the government as a form of payment of the medicaid.
As far as government run health care I can say this. My mom now has medicare and she has what they call a supplemental policy which is basically a second insurance policy, but most of it is paid by medicare. She is also on the medicare prescription drug plan. She goes to just about any doctor she wants, has no trouble getting prescriptions filled and twice has had to see a specialist and there was no problem getting it. It actually seems to run pretty smoothly. I'm not saying any plan that would be 100% run by the government would run as smoothly, but this does seem to run pretty well.
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No not all of the poor will get it. Like you said it varies from state to state, the criteria that has to be met. I never said everyone gets government health care for free. I said that a lot of people do get it and government health care does exist. The poor (not all of them) can get medicade, but if you are not poor then you have no shot of getting it. Medicare is govt run and helps for people over 65. The veterans get health care. People who are found to be disabled.
A lot of population already has govt run health care and it sucks. It may not suck for everyone who uses it but over all it is terrible. The sucking part isn't just confined to service, it is also on fraud and money missmangement to name a few things. Medicare and Social Security are in serious trouble financially.
So the govt who has proven it sucks at caring for people and managing the govt run health care it has in place now, wants to take the whole system over? Shouldn't they fix what they have in place now first?
How do you think they are going to pay for it. As I have said in a previous post, you think the health care system is messed up now with private companies, wait till the govt gets controll of it. Our taxes will go through the roof to pay for it. We will pay a lot more in taxes then what we are paying right now for medicare, medicade,etc.. plus our own current insurance. But we will have "FREE" heathcare, lol. Wait till you see the middle class paying in taxes what the people making over 250K are paying right now. Taxes will go up and sevices will go down. It's the only two factors in the eqauation. They make us pay for it, and when that isn't enough the start deciding who lives and who dies. One day that 75 year old women could be someone you know, or I know, that the governemt deams isn't worth paying $100K on a bypass surgery because they have to keep their costs down.
It just doesn't make sense any way you look at it. If medicare, medicade, veterans hospitals were all cutting edge, great places to treat people and they had a good handle on it, no waste, fraud etc... then maybe I would trust them with my life too. but until then no thanks. The system is fucked up, needs to be fixed, but to put it into the hands of the govt, that will only make this worst.