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Old 03-11-2010, 03:16 PM  
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Originally Posted by DLXphil View Post
h-drol is a methyl as well, and they are alright to stack with other non-methyl's its obviously not recomended for the first time user. Bold/havoc or epistane is a great combo.
I didn't know HDROL was a methyl, I thought it was a really weak prohormone compared to the others..I heard bold and havoc are super suppressive, (even with PCT chance of rebound gyno).

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spawn had unbelievably high amounts of a methyl 30mg tren and 8mg epistane/havoc per pill! i get blood work done every 6 months or so, and have never had an issue with my DR and keep him regularly updates of my supplements. Its really great to have a dr who knows sports medicine. im sure your buddy didnt use any on cycle treatment or anything for PCT as well. Its always the individuals who dont research who screw up the supplement market/industry for everyone else.
Yeah man, he took an over the counter PCT and not a serm like Nolva or Clomid. I honestly don't trust those supps, just my take on it..I actually don't trust a lot of the supps out there. When I first started working out I was obsessed with the idea of taking all sorts of supplements, N.O preworkout shit, creatine, prohormones, natural test boosters, etc..

Now I'm just in it for the long run, I don't take shit and I'm still seeing the same gains and I don't have to worry about what I'm putting in my body. I just eat, take whey protein, do cardio and lift. If I'm feeling tired I'll drink a cup of coffee before my workouts.
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