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Originally Posted by DLXphil
no offense but your info is all over the place, bold is a PH, havoc is a methyl...both of those are probably the least suppressive in both categories. Superdrol is highly suppressive as is pheraplex and tren. Phera is a very wet compound and much more androgenic than both superdrol and tren, superdrol/tren will get you more leaner dry gains. Either way your buddy didnt take any support supplements while being on or have a proper PCT, so theres a reason behind why his health was put at risk. Do it right the first time or dont do it at all.
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HAVOC is very suppressive because it is also an anti-e. Your body needs some estrogen to stay balanced, so when you finish your cycle AND take a PCT to further suppress estrogen you take the risk of your body creating excess estrogen when you finish your PCT, (rebound gyno). Just from what I read on prohormoneforum.com.
As for support supps, he took milk thistle, hawthorn berry and some sort of OTC PCT with an AI. I don't care what support supps you take, you're still going to get side effects when you gain the same mass as you would injecting real steroids. It's the price you pay to put on that kind of mass that quickly. I'd rather inject real pure pharmaceutical test than put that shit in my body, but that's just my take on it.