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Originally Posted by NetHorse
HAVOC is very suppressive because it is also an anti-e. Your body needs some estrogen to stay balanced, so when you finish your cycle AND take a PCT to further suppress estrogen you take the risk of your body creating excess estrogen when you finish your PCT, (rebound gyno). Just from what I read on prohormoneforum.com.
As for support supps, he took milk thistle, hawthorn berry and some sort of OTC PCT with an AI. I don't care what support supps you take, you're still going to get side effects when you gain the same mass as you would injecting real steroids. It's the price you pay to put on that kind of mass that quickly. I'd rather inject real pure pharmaceutical test than put that shit in my body, but that's just my take on it.
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Havoc has minimal side effects and suppression of the body?s natural androgen production as well as minimal raises in estrogen, if any at all. its one of the least suppressive, do the research on your own. and whoever told you that you can gain as much on a havoc cycle as u can on a cycle of test is out of their mind. u can gain maybe 5-7lbs of LBM IF that on this stuff, its weak. Superdrol on the otherhand, 15 pounds and probably keep 10. and i agree with you 100% on pinning rather than taking OTC stuff, u cant go wrong with something that has 50+ years of research backing it.
in order of strength weakest to strongest
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havoc/epistane
halodrol-50
tren xtreme
mdrol/superdrol
m1t