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Old 03-11-2010, 05:33 PM  
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Originally Posted by DLXphil View Post
and whoever told you that you can gain as much on a havoc cycle as u can on a cycle of test is out of their mind. u can gain maybe 5-7lbs of LBM IF that on this stuff, its weak. Superdrol on the otherhand, 15 pounds and probably keep 10. and i agree with you 100% on pinning rather than taking OTC stuff,
From what I've read in 4 weeks time you can gain nearly as much as pinning yourself with test for 4 weeks. Obviously most test cycles go for 10-12 weeks so the possibility to gain more is there.

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u cant go wrong with something that has 50+ years of research backing it.
Well, that's the thing, you can go wrong. Anytime you mess with your hormonal levels and put on mass a lot quicker than you would naturally. No matter how many support supps you take, while on cycle you're stressing every organ in your body. Anyways, we will just have to agree to disagree, we are coming from two different perspectives here. I'm all natural and that's the way I'm going to stay, nothing against you or other users.
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