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Originally Posted by NetHorse
From what I've read in 4 weeks time you can gain nearly as much as pinning yourself with test for 4 weeks. Obviously most test cycles go for 10-12 weeks so the possibility to gain more is there.
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you do realize that you wont start to see any benefits from test until maybe mid week 3 and week 4 right? even if its a short ester, all your immediate first gains are going to be water and glycogen. i dont know where you get your information, but you still are very mis-informed, regardless of if your "natural" or not...
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Originally Posted by NetHorse
Take it for it's worth!!!  Personally, I think a lot of people jump to taking steroids when they shouldn't be touching them. In my opinion it should be used by guys who have already reached their genetic potential and want to get freaky big. Just my 2cents to any noobies reading this thread wanting to get into weight lifting and bodybuilding. |
not everyone wants to get freaky big, maybe freaky strong, or vascular, or spare fat while on a cut. then you have the newbs and its these people who give supplement companies the wrong way, the people who jump the gun, being ill-informed, not having proper support (your buddy's "support supps" were crap BTW) over the counter PTC while taking 1 very harsh methyl and 1 moderately harsh methyl, then taking an AI when one of them is already an anti-e. Your "buddy" is dumb, and your both uniformed and will continue to think these things wreak havoc on your body, but when used in a proper way it will have minimal side effects. Im not saying a guy pumped full of anadrol, dbol, test, deca, and tren is healthy by any means. But for someone whos never going to want to be at their genetic limit, recover, have faster gains, harder and fuller muscles, or going for a full body recomposition, then i see no problem with using an aid. I guess thats how i justify it, if im going to punish my body day in and day out i want it working as efficiently as possible, if that makes sense. But i do see your understanding, but if you do your research theres plenty of studies to backup pretty much anything with a chemical structure.