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Old 03-17-2010, 04:05 PM  
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This is pretty much the best argument for universal health care. The amount of cash governments rake in from taxes and other shit should pretty much be a guarantee for the good health of its citizens. Gov still got no cash after taxes? Fire the idiots and hire someone else who can organize and prioritize their money better. Even if there's no money and the tards can't be fired, demand health anyway, you've pretty much bent over and paid for it already, they're just not delivering on a vital and imporant service that keeps a country's citizens strong and healthy. A strong and healthy population means a strong and healthy country. Seems like a no brainer, to me.
There is already a lot of "free" health care for people out there now in the US:
Anyone under 18 is eligible for free health care.
If you are poor and meet other conditions you can get medicade
Veterens get free health care
If you are over 65 you can get Medicare which is real cheap.

So the "gap" is people over 18 and under 65 that are not eligible for medicare and are not a vetern, who doesn't work for a company that offers group health and they can not afford their own health care.

We already pay a lot in taxes for medicare/medicade and social security. A LOT OF INCOME TAXES go to that. All of those programs are totally miss managed by the govt and there is lots of fraud. Both of them are on t he verge of running out of money. If they provide coverage to the people not already covered it's going to raise our taxes and be another miss managed poorly run health program by the govt.

Personally, I would love for each of those 30K or however many people who are not insured under a program or paying for their own, to be audited. I would LOVE to see how many of them choose to pay $800 a month for a nice car, or paying more in rent then they can afford, own flat screens, take vacations etc... I would bet that 90% of the people who don't have insurance don't have it because they choose to spend their money else where, and I'm not talking food and a modest rent but bull shit that t hey can live with out. Or for drugs, cigs, or booze, having gambling habbits, etc... Not ALL people but i bet most of them.

I don't think the people who actually contribute to society, work their asses off to be successfull should continue to be taxed to death to pay for the bottom of the barrel that is there because they are irresponsible. The ones who are really trying and sacrificing, I don't mind giving them a hand up. Most are not though.

If we add universal health care our taxes will go up, and everyone of us will be paying for it. Well everyone of us that actually contributes to society in a good way.
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