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Originally Posted by The Demon
Obama's #s are 46-47%, while the majority of Americans dislike him. Then again, the poll is not a representative of the whole country, so I wouldn't use it in a debate.
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Gallop has him at a 48% job approval rating as of today. But any poll has margins of error and they can change daily. According to this
http://americaswatchtower.com/2010/0...0-mid-term-me/ his personal likability rating is still around 60%.
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The problem with the latter statement is that the Democrats' logic is flawed and just plain delusional. Since the majority of this country do not want Obamacare as it is, the only ones that feel that the Democrats did something great are the Democrats. If they go into the elections pitching that shit, you can expect a landslide.
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That is actually not the case though. When you look at this poll
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/...alth-care.html 89% of liberals and around 55% of moderates like the health care bill as it is. Of course this could change if it passes and we see it in action, but for now the left and many moderates like it. That is enough to win election. In the current political climate the country is divided enough that all you need to do to win is get your base to vote for you and convince enough moderates to vote for you. If this poll is even close to accurate the democrats will not be hurt by health care. The republicans were never going to vote democrat so all they have to do is hold onto their own party and win over the moderates
There will be no independent that can win the presidential election in 2012 unless that persona has a ton of money they are willing to spend. However, on the local level, especially in the house, there could be independents that could win.