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Old 03-19-2010, 11:04 AM  
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Nation, let's not pretend that Obama would have given us clear answers. He's the best at skirting issues. With that said, it still doesn't make what Baier did any more right.
So what you are saying is that I should judge Obama on the answers he might have given if he was asked real questions and allowed to answer them? I agree with you in part... Obama SHOULD be held accountable for his answers on real questions... however, half of the questions were about whether or not Obama supported the use of Deem and Pass with Baier asserting that there wouldn't be a vote (which is false because there has already been a vote on the Senate Bill and it passed and now they will vote on the Reconciliation bill). This Deem and Pass talking point is complete bullshit hypocrisy since the Republicans are the ones that got it legitimized in the courts... AND the fact that it is a mundane process in reality. The vote will be on the Reconciliation bill which adds President Obama's requested changes to the Senate Bill. IF the Reconciliation bill passes the Senate Bill is considered passed as well since they are basically tied together. This isn't a new procedure... both Reconciliation AND Deem and Pass have been used by Republicans MORE than Democrats (Reconciliation 16 out of 21-22 times, Deem and Pass 202 times since 1996)... thus the hypocrisy.

As far as the deals... Obama made it clear which "deals" they had decided to leave in and said very clearly that the rest are gone with the passage of the Reconciliation bill. Furthermore, Obama didn't make those deals in the first place... Reid and Pelosi did that to whip votes... believe me... Republicans do the same thing... why not ask Jim Bunning what deal he got from the Republican leadership for allowing the Unemployment Extensions to pass.

As far as the donut hole... Obama answered that question clearly.

Here is the transcript... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,589589,00.html

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