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Old 03-22-2010, 03:08 PM  
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First, I respect your points of view... just like to preface by saying :P

I hate this argument it's completely bullshit... this assumes that there is no threat to privacy unless the government uncovers unlawful activity... in which case a person has no legitimate justification to claim that it remains private. You are effectively denouncing privacy laws...

It's a complete disregard and encroachment on civil liberties for a superficial sense of security... This is an undemocratic tendency that's anathema to the Founders' vision.
I disagree. You're basically saying that freedom of privacy is absolute. That's like saying, "freedom of speech" is absolute. It's not. There are certain times where some kind of intervention is justified, and terrorism is one of those.

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Let's also take into account that surveillance and monitoring of data, even massive amounts such as the carnivore project, also causes people NOT to talk about points which may raise red flags... It effectually stamps on free speech without having to pass any laws against free speech it's a byproduct...
The only legitimate argument you would have is a slippery slope argument. "Well the government will just increase it during peace time and ..." And I would agree with you, it's a catch 22.
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